Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

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    Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AqwjFN2YPQuA2jsCX71pyoo5nYcB?slug=jc-mosswaivers110210

    Interesting Commentary by Cole


    Now Contrast this with a the tweet from Jason La Confora:
    http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/29400646540


    Texting with a few general managers in Randy Moss - several believe he ends up back with the Patriots.










     
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    Re: Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

    Moss is not going to clear waivers to Pats IMO.


    However, consider the following possibility:

    Say a superbowl competitor such as Dolphins, Saints, Jets, Colts claim Moss and in loyalty to Patriots he sits the remainder of season and in return signs as an unrestricted free agent with New England next year.

    going to be interesting, regardless of outcome






     
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    Re: Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

    Carbon, that seems like a likely scenario but here's what i'm thinking:

    Would a team really throw away that kind of money just to keep Moss on the sidelines and away from New England (assuming we want him to begin with)? It's a lot of money. If Moss decides to show up, you're on the hook for the money AND he has the potential to disrupt your locker room. You can tell he wants to be in New England and nowhere else so a team is running a serious risk by putting in a claim for him.

    You're right though, it'll be interesting regardless.
     
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    Re: Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

    In Response to Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?:
    [QUOTE]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AqwjFN2YPQuA2jsCX71pyoo5nYcB?slug=jc-mosswaivers110210 Interesting Commentary by Cole Now Contrast this with a the tweet from Jason La Confora: http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/29400646540 Texting with a few general managers in Randy Moss - several believe he ends up back with the Patriots.
    Posted by carbonflow[/QUOTE]

    Wow, and wow, Carbon. Good links. Will indeed be interesting how it unfolds.
     
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    another interesting scenario

    this is referred to by the AFC official mentioned in Jason Cole's article above,


    consider the following:

    Suppose the Saints, Colts, Giants, Jets, or any other superbowl contender claims Moss with no intention whatsoever of playing Moss(on the assumption that New England will take him back).  This would be unfortuante for Moss if he actually wanted to go out and produce but for 3.5 million, Patriots opponents are hedging themselves against the added dimension that Moss would bring back to Pats office. And if Moss goes out and produces as he is capable of and gives knoweledge of Patriots system to new team, he is worth the 3.5 the million.

    Bottom line,

    every superbowl competitor should be putting a claim on Moss.  The economics justify it  IMO

    T






     
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    Re: another interesting scenario

    In Response to another interesting scenario:
    [QUOTE]this is referred to by the AFC official mentioned in Jason Cole's article above, consider the following: Suppose the Saints, Colts, Giants, Jets, or any other superbowl contender claims Moss with no intention whatsoever of playing Moss(on the assumption that New England will take him back).  This would be unfortuante for Moss if he actually wanted to go out and produce but for 3.5 million, Patriots opponents are hedging themselves against the added dimension that Moss would bring back to Pats office. And if Moss goes out and produces as he is capable of and gives knoweledge of Patriots system to new team, he is worth the 3.5 the million. Bottom line, every superbowl competitor should be putting a claim on Moss.  The economics justify it  IMO T
    Posted by carbonflow[/QUOTE]

    Hey Carbon,

     Professional scouts will know the Pats' tendencies as well as the players do. While they may not know the terminology, they understand schemes from a macro level, and those schemes are going to change come playoff time. And to take Moss just to keep him from going back to the Pats assumes the Pats would a) want him back, and b) think they are better team with him...two giant assumptions to make for $3+ million.

    I think Moss's perceived ability to produce in a new system is the only real issue here.


     
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    Re: another interesting scenario

    NY Pat Fan,

    your point is well-taken...Although we are discussing two different motivations/strategies for another team making a claim on Moss, they are not exclusive.  Gettig both production out of Moss and keeping his talents away from the competition go together.


    But the preemptive argument has merit in its own right.  I would love to ask Rex Ryan if he thought paying 3.5 million to keep Moss away from Patriots to be worth the money.



     
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    Re: Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

    Moss was called one of the smartest football players he has coached by BB, so his ability to pick up a new offense I think is a moot concern. The only concern is does he show up if you claim him and if you claim him and he shows up will he be a good soldier?
    Also, anyone who wants to go get him has to know that they are likely not going to easily resign Randy. He is looking like he wants back in New England, only questions are for what price and does BB want to bring him back? Both very good questions that no one but Moss and BB knows the answer too.
     
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    Re: another interesting scenario

    Say that Randy Moss had been playing for the Jets for the past 3 seasons and was just traded and released and wanted to go back to them. Say that The Pats had a chance to block this because the Jets are a game ahead of the Pats. Belichick would be stupid not to put in a claim for Moss.

    Come on guys, he is not coming back... someone is going to claim him.
     
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    Re: Jason Cole of Yahoo, Will Moss Sit Remainder of Season?

    i dont believe anyone will claim him and pay that kinda money for a player who has been kicked off two teams this year
     
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