Jets Safeties

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    I can't think of one player on the Jets that would match-up well with Gronk or Hernandez. Rhodes was decent, but not great. Leonhard was from Rexy's days in Baltimore and better in the box. I just hope that Brady and O Brien exploit the h--ll out this mismatch. Also like Crumps blocking on screens to Woody or Law Firm. Personally I'd love to see Crumpler lay out Revis or Cromartie on a bubble screen that hits the Jets secondary like a tonne of bricks....
     
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    This probably wasn't exploited as much in week 2 due to the inexperience of the two rookie TE's in the system, and Crumpler being in his 2nd game.  Also the offense was not relying on play action as much with more shotgun looks.  
     
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    Not only will TE's put up significant numbers their presence will aid guys like BJGE and Welker. Lets not forget that Welker is much healthier and I think finally settling in. I wouldn't be surprised if Hernandez and Gronk got more TD's than anyone else, our TE's are just to big and to good.
     
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    I brought up the terrible FA signing of Brodney Pool this offseason as a mistake by NY when they dealt away Kerry Rhodes, but I think is an area where NE failed to target in Week 2, especially in the second half, but can do it on Monday. Not only has Kyle Wilson failed in the nickel packages for most of this season,  but now Eric Smith is in for Brodney Pool at FS. Considering Jim Leonhard is not known for covering, and Eric Smith, at best is average, this is a huge, huge advantage for NE. If we see it, no doubt BB and Brady/O'Brien are looking at this. Thought this was an interesting comment: "I think (the Jets) have much better luck against guys like Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco and Andre Johnson than they do against Wes Welker and Deion Branch and Danny Woodhead," Baldinger said. "I think those matchups are much tougher. If you look, they've already benched their safety Brodney Pool, and started Eric Smith (against Cincinnati) because they haven't covered tight ends well. The middle of the field has been a problem."
    Posted by BBReigns


    This is one of the reasons the Jets D is clearly not what it was last yr.
     
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    I brought up the terrible FA signing of Brodney Pool this offseason as a mistake by NY when they dealt away Kerry Rhodes, but I think is an area where NE failed to target in Week 2, especially in the second half, but can do it on Monday. Not only has Kyle Wilson failed in the nickel packages for most of this season,  but now Eric Smith is in for Brodney Pool at FS. Considering Jim Leonhard is not known for covering, and Eric Smith, at best is average, this is a huge, huge advantage for NE. If we see it, no doubt BB and Brady/O'Brien are looking at this. Thought this was an interesting comment: "I think (the Jets) have much better luck against guys like Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco and Andre Johnson than they do against Wes Welker and Deion Branch and Danny Woodhead," Baldinger said. "I think those matchups are much tougher. If you look, they've already benched their safety Brodney Pool, and started Eric Smith (against Cincinnati) because they haven't covered tight ends well. The middle of the field has been a problem."
    Posted by BBReigns


    I told you this 2 weeks ago.
     
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    nhsteven was wondering why you always up bbreigns post i noticed you respond too him  almost every comment he makes? just a question
     
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     Question is, why is this patsie D, in the third year of 'rebuilding', still so bad?
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    What!? 3 years? I would say this would be there second year and to be honest most players takes at least 2-3 years to develop and the BB defense can be very hard to understand and play in. I don't know why you care how long it's taking us to "rebuild" while your Jets blew the bank for "star" we still have the same record.

    Question is, when will the Jets run out of luck and Sanchez tanks it?
     
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    I can't think of one player on the Jets that would match-up well with Gronk or Hernandez. Rhodes was decent, but not great. Leonhard was from Rexy's days in Baltimore and better in the box. I just hope that Brady and O Brien exploit the h--ll out this mismatch. Also like Crumps blocking on screens to Woody or Law Firm. Personally I'd love to see Crumpler lay out Revis or Cromartie on a bubble screen that hits the Jets secondary like a tonne of bricks....
    Posted by JohnHannahrulz


    The only way the Jets can deal with our TEs is by trying to force them to stay home and block. 
     
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    Hey Phat...  if the Pats are 9 - 2 with a rebuilding "lousy" D, are the Jets with the possibly league's best D (your opinion, I believe) and also at 9 - 2 a disappointment?  Oh, and another thing, the Pats aren't playing the Jets of 2009, a year many say the Jets D was BETTER!  If that is the case, and the Pats hung 31 points on that Jets defense in game #2 after being held to 9 points in game #1, what does that spell for your team this year when many feel this Pats O is BETTER than last year's team?
     
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    No other team will test the Jets' backfield 5-deep. 

    Having Kyle Shrimpy-Arms Wilson cover Gronkowski is Fantasy Island.  "Look!  The plane!  The plane!"
     
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    Also like Crumps blocking on screens to Woody or Law Firm. Personally I'd love to see Crumpler lay out Revis or Cromartie on a bubble screen that hits the Jets secondary like a tonne of bricks....
    Posted by JohnHannahrulz

    Crumpler is the strongest and heaviest guy in the NFL that can regularly run downfield (the O-line can't get more than 5 yards downfield before the pass, but the tight end is free) and then barrel into ordinary-sized cornerbacks.  He's on a pass-heavy team so he gets lots of chances.  Gronk isn't that far behind him in weight and especially in strength, and he's fast enough to catch passes (and then of course he barrels through the flyweights too, except he has the ball).  When New England is humming, the critical factor isn't the cornerbacks' speed in the 40 or their reaction time, but their bone structure. 
     
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    Your almost thier but honestly Jim Leohnard is better than any safety we have.i wish we signed this guy.
     
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    In Response to Re: Jets Safeties : Which is the luckier part of the Jets season, their 3rd ranked D or 10th ranked O?  Could it be the 3-0 in their division and only 1 conference loss?  Wait, you must mean their abilty to both run and stop the run, that is always lucky.
    Posted by PhatRex


    3rd this, 10th that.

    BB gave the Jets the first game; he was selling Randy Moss and did that well.  Enjoy it, use it to console yourself Monday night.
     
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    i see a big game here for Gronk..
     
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    Rhodes had some bad plays last year at times, but he is still much better (BBreigns)

    I agree 100%. I think Rhodes ego couldn't handle not being the #1 guy in the Jet secondary at the beginning of last year but I thought he was returning to form after the benching and blow to his ego. This was a major mistake by the Jets FO. If anything, Rhodes was a playmaker and put good coverage on T.E.
     
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    Although I was a big fan of Washington, they were seriously concerned about his recovering from the injury. I had no issues with Faneca and the kid is getting better all the time. But the Rhodes move has been a disaster. Pool and Smith, IMO are horrible cover guys. And Leohnard is good in the run game, but weak on the passing game. As for an earlier comment about Wilson, he is nowhere near a bust. He has shown real signs of improvement and seems to have gotten over those early season disasters. This kid will be good in a year - mark it.

    This game is going to be won or lost in the center of the field for both teams. And just like I am concerned with the Jet safeties, I truly don't believe that the Pat corners can manhandle the Jet wideouts on the line as some here think they might. And if they do bump and lose, Holmes will kill them all day long on the slant routes. One thing that the Jets have going for them is that Mangold is probably one of the few centers that can take on Wilfork on his own. So the Jets just may be able to run up the middle on the Pats and in turn draw the safeties into the box. This will open the middle of the field for LT on pass routes.

    I really think this will be an excellent game and no matter the outcome, I think we see a 3rd game in January.
     
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