http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/21/your-jets-boast-of-the-day-courtesy-of-mark-sanchez/ Keep it coming, boys. You really have no idea how stupid you look.
Posted by apdynasty23

I saw that nonsense.  They're reminding me a lot of an even more arrogant/mouthy Chargers team from a couple years ago.  Reached the AFC Championship game and then were expected to be the next great thing and be back the next year, oops.. good thing they played in a sucky division otherwise they would've missed the playoffs.  Jests don't have that luxury - they've got the Pats and the 'Fins to deal with, both of whom are better than the NYJ.  I can't wait until they crash and burn.  Maybe they're scoping out the white house because they'll never get to go on a championship trip - i'm sure they wondered what it was like after seeing the Pats go so much in the past decade.
Posted by jasonh86

Uh, it's a FAN discussion board and it's May. You're supposed to believe in your own team and find reasons to belittle your opponents and bitter rivals.
Posted by apdynasty23

Far worse than the Jets players' statements about winning the superbowl are the ignorant fans around here that think we are the only team capable of winning.  Just read through some of this garbage.  Everyone is counting on these first and second year players to make these huge contributions this year.  Most of the time, that just doesn't happen.  By the way, teams do not have great defenses by accident.  It doesn't just sort of come together without good coaching and good players, those coaches and players that are still there.  What is the big problem with a team that plans on going to the superbowl.  Winning the AFC East is not the freakin goal, people.  I wish we had people that stood up and said, "Yeah, we are planning on going to the Superbowl"  instead of this hush hush ridiculousness.  Arrogance is thinking that a team that beat us last year, went to the AFC Championship game, had a great defense, brought in some good players and drafted well is just going to disappear because we have a great coach or because we won a few superbowls a few years ago.  It is both really insecure and pretty pathetic for another team's goals and statements to be a big problem for us. 
Posted by waldorff

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : Who's we and us Troll. If you don't like it find another thread or actually another forum.
Posted by PatsareNumberone

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : Waldork is one of those fans that tries to spin things in another direction. In this case, he's making it seem like Pats fans don't respect the opponents in the division, which is clearly false, especially for Pats fans who know how tough it is to even put together winning seasons back to back in the cap era. Some fans, like myself, feel Miami is actually building stronger and better, while NY is more about flash and hype at the core. Waldy will pretend like what the Jets are doing is completely normal, just as he'll pretend that how they have built their small window, flawed team is somehow the way to do it when we have seen that it clearly isn't. There are a few of him here like this. Bubba in Hawaii is another.  TexasPat is bordering on it. They take the media bait and feel since the team isn't going 14-2 while rebuilding, they are worse off than they are. They play contrarian for attention.
Posted by russgriswold

Far worse than the Jets players' statements about winning the superbowl are the ignorant fans around here that think we are the only team capable of winning.  Just read through some of this garbage.  Everyone is counting on these first and second year players to make these huge contributions this year.  Most of the time, that just doesn't happen.  By the way, teams do not have great defenses by accident.  It doesn't just sort of come together without good coaching and good players, those coaches and players that are still there.  What is the big problem with a team that plans on going to the superbowl.  Winning the AFC East is not the freakin goal, people.  I wish we had people that stood up and said, "Yeah, we are planning on going to the Superbowl"  instead of this hush hush ridiculousness.  Arrogance is thinking that a team that beat us last year, went to the AFC Championship game, had a great defense, brought in some good players and drafted well is just going to disappear because we have a great coach or because we won a few superbowls a few years ago.  It is both really insecure and pretty pathetic for another team's goals and statements to be a big problem for us. 
Posted by waldorff

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : So, let me get this straight. What you are saying here is that, the Jets did not have a great defense last year.  And you are alos saying that the Jets didn't target players to fill their holes that Indy exposed in the playoffs. Instead, they chose to sign the biggest names they could think of?  It is possible that the Jets window is small, any educated football fan knows that most all teams windows are small.  Of course, I have no idea how their free agent situation will turn out.  Maybe I can borrow your cryatal ball some time.      Miami is a good team and I didn't say anything to the contrary.  I see nothing about the Patriots, besides Tom Brady, that makes me think we are any better than either of those teams.  Harping on the success we had 5 years ago, is just plain stupid.  You love to play this everyone is against us card.  Most of the time,when the majority of those who have made sports forcasting their life, predict in certain way, they are more right than wrong.   You just like to think that no matter what Bill does, it is yet another genius move that is sure to make us get back to the superbowl with no regard for what other teams have done.
Posted by waldorff

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : they didnt seem to be able to shut us down...and on a down year...so no they did not...good not great... and... great defenses are good in third down efficiency and points allowed...all the rest is flash and statistical hype...
Posted by jcour382

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : they didnt seem to be able to shut us down...and on a down year...so no they did not...good not great... and... great defenses are good in third down efficiency and points allowed...all the rest is flash and statistical hype...
Posted by jcour382

Do you realiz NE led the league in rushing TDs allowed and NY only had ONE more sack than NE? Yeah.  Pretty surprising to read that fact, isn't it?  We wouldn't know it based upon all the media baiting articles trying to hammer Bill Belichick as he rebuilds with brand new people on the fly, winning the division. There are two rules/barometers in this league:  One set for all 31 teams, and one for BB and NE. Not too shabby for a defense that only looked bad on national TV on the road in a dome against two great QBs, that had 5 different BRAND NEW players in a complex 3-4 scheme, with most of the new bodies in the secondary for the 2nd year in a row. Do the math a little. NE is building in the right direction, very quickly and very strongly. All the moves are methodical, slow and calculating. If NE's D regresses from last year, then you are spot on. I just don't see it nor I am buying the sky is falling rhetoric from the national media and the local media who see more $$ with bashing NE and being dramatic then analyzing aspects of team with data, facts, context and reason. I see BB strengthening this thing, weeding out dead eggs, and adding depth. The Jets D is not going to be #1 again, nor is their rushing offense going to be #1. It is incredibly difficult to put together back to back winning seasons, let alone back to back dominant ones even though the Jets were never dominant.  They had a very good D, rated #1, but it was never good enough to be championship caliber either. The Jets looked average against Jacksonville last year.  Jacksonville. At one point, they lost 6 straight. NY was a .500 team last year and lost a lot of players that helped build those results (both good and bad). It's ironic what HURT NE last year (instability, depth issues and health) is what people are praising NY for now, when in reality, NY has more new bodies than NE does. Win, NE. Funny how you mention small windows, yet generally speaking, especially if Brady does not go donw in 2008, NE's window is not small at all. Do you know why this is?
Posted by russgriswold

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : I haven't seen it recently, but I am pretty sure that the Jets excelled on third down on defense and were best in points allowed.  So, thanks for the help.  The Jets did shut us down once, and the other game was essentially on Sanchez' poor play, 4 picks and a fumble, I think.  I would expect that he will be better, maybe not good, but better after playing a full year as a rookie.  He looked very good in the playoffs, even in the loss to the Colts.  Rookies that play are usually pretty bad and usually progress in their next year. Their are exceptions, but that is usually the case. 
Posted by waldorff

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : The difference is that some people walk softly but carry a big stick...and then others mouth off the whole time but when the fight comes they run to their mommies...   do your talkin on the field!!... stay humble!!!
Posted by jcour382

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : you dont have a good memory..the first game was close and came down to missed opportunities by us not great d by them...
Posted by jcour382

In Response to Re: Jets Scoping Out the White House : Stating your belief or goal does not equate to not being able to perform on the field.  If the Patriots really believe that they are good enought o win the superbowl, yet they choose not to talk about that, that doesn't mean they are more humble or less arrogant.  Every team in the NFL should beleive that they are capable of going to the superbowl, otherwise, what's the point.  Stating it or not stating it is irrelevant.  Bill choses demand that his players not talk.  Rex does not restrict his players from talking. It's just a matter of preference.  Both seem to be able to work.  Mangini seemed to like the BB method. It did not work for him.  I get pretty sick of the players not being allowed to say what they think.  I always liked the Charles Barkley method. He said it, then backed it up.
Posted by waldorff

Do you realiz NE led the league in rushing TDs allowed and NY only had ONE more sack than NE? Yeah.  Pretty surprising to read that fact, isn't it?  We wouldn't know it based upon all the media baiting articles trying to hammer Bill Belichick as he rebuilds with brand new people on the fly, winning the division. There are two rules/barometers in this league:  One set for all 31 teams, and one for BB and NE. Not too shabby for a defense that only looked bad on national TV on the road in a dome against two great QBs, that had 5 different BRAND NEW players in a complex 3-4 scheme, with most of the new bodies in the secondary for the 2nd year in a row. Do the math a little. NE is building in the right direction, very quickly and very strongly. All the moves are methodical, slow and calculating. If NE's D regresses from last year, then you are spot on. I just don't see it nor I am buying the sky is falling rhetoric from the national media and the local media who see more $$ with bashing NE and being dramatic then analyzing aspects of team with data, facts, context and reason. I see BB strengthening this thing, weeding out dead eggs, and adding depth. The Jets D is not going to be #1 again, nor is their rushing offense going to be #1. It is incredibly difficult to put together back to back winning seasons, let alone back to back dominant ones even though the Jets were never dominant.  They had a very good D, rated #1, but it was never good enough to be championship caliber either. The Jets looked average against Jacksonville last year.  Jacksonville. At one point, they lost 6 straight. NY was a .500 team last year and lost a lot of players that helped build those results (both good and bad). It's ironic what HURT NE last year (instability, depth issues and health) is what people are praising NY for now, when in reality, NY has more new bodies than NE does. Win, NE. Funny how you mention small windows, yet generally speaking, especially if Brady does not go donw in 2008, NE's window is not small at all. Do you know why this is?
Posted by russgriswold