he can pull a loss from a win with skill.

there is no reason why bb cant bring himself to work with top coaches from around the league at every position (but especially o.c.)

that would have made a legacy unable to be beaten (past and future)

 

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No Sir.. Not his fault we fumble and mis field goals.

Don't you just love it when the running game is working and they keep forcing the pass? I still say the problem is a lack of speed at WR and no outside big play threat! 3rd and long is when they have the most trouble, because their slow recievers can't get open downfield! Hern will help when he comes back but Belichick needs to do a lot better job at drafting and developing big play WR's!

finally in 2nd half bb overruling josh and making him run it

In response to Rerun85's comment:

turnovers are beside the point. if yo can evaluate a game, you can see what im taling about (first half)

What makes you think BB is overruling him and that Josh didn't change gameplans?

In response to bredbru's comment:

Yes the first half could have been better but 2 drives killed deep on your side of the field but 2 vets fumbling then to have 6 points taken off the board because of missed kicks from a normally solid kicker isn't McDaniels fault

In response to PatsEng's comment:

watching his playcalling all season, and knowing bb.

i think bb seen enough and told him to run it more

he has done so in past with o coordinators

its my extimation.

In response to PatsEng's comment:

you and i are talking about diff things.

i can see turnover, drops, etc.

can you see poor game management. (im betting you can)

Grind that axe buddy, in the meantime the Pat's are tied at 8th in the NFL in scoring points per game.

I'll preface this comment by saying I haven't been watchingn the game, but it's good to see that people remember the actual Josh McDaniels who coordinated this offense (or didn't) once upon a time, and not some mythical Josh McDaniels who can work magic by his very presence.

 

We've seen this before, kids.

 

 

In response to bredbru's comment:

LOL, what game were you watching?

 

In response to bredbru's comment:

You can't evaluate his game plan when players can't execute. And as to your comment that BB is over ruling him in the 2nd half that is also incorrect. But you seem to have an agenda so have at it.

Bad to comment till you see the whole picture. Might want to wait next time.

In response to Iceman4's comment:

Oops. 600 yards, 1st time Pats had 2 100 yd rushers since 1982. down by 14 and McD commits to ground and pound which opens up the pass for 300 plus 3 tds! McD did what Obrien wouldn't. Oh and P-Mike, McD coached the offense that broke the NFL scoring record, and then coached the offense with Cassel to 11-5 with the 6th best rushing attack despite having Morris,Maroney,Lamont Jordan and Faulk as RB's. it was his only 2 seasons as OC so what exactly are you talking about broski?

In response to bredbru's comment:

Josh probably overuled BB and started running it. Never KNnow.

a little premature to start this thread - don't you think ?

 

I wanted us to run the ball more as well..but not sure that BB over ruled JM..c'mon...

Honestly I think Josh was doing a poor job in the first half - the run was working and he went away from it. Ridley would rip off a ten yard gain and then he would head to the bench - I really thought the runners were never going to get into a rythem like that...turns out it worked. I don't think it would work against a team that quits like the Bills. Has anyone ever seen a defensive front just go to sleep like that? I swear their right defensive tackle should be cut tomorrow...he would just stand up on running plays  and allow himself to get destroyed everytime. Never seen anything like it. 

 

Jumping ship at 2:30? Did you see the McC int? Was a beauty.

In response to kansaspatriot's comment:

did you watch the card game teh balt game and the first half of this one?

can you evaluate coaching?

lets just say we have different eyes and therefore diff opinions .... and live to watch another day.

 

In response to mthurl's comment:

Honestly I think Josh was doing a poor job in the first half

-you mean you are willing to say what others dont see and have 10 people tell you you are full of it because you can see what they cant?

 

the run was working and he went away from it. Ridley would rip off a ten yard gain and then he would head to

the bench . I really thought the runners were never going to get into a rythem like that..

-yup. smart there i tells ya. we got the best oc in the league.

.turns out it worked.

-um actaully in teh first half when we were not tuurning the ball over teh offense was stalling out and had no rythm. so it wasnt working imo.

I don't think it would work against a team that quits like the Bills. Has anyone ever seen a defensive front just go to sleep like that? I swear their right defensive tackle should be cut tomorrow...he would just stand up on running plays  and allow himself to get destroyed everytime. Never seen anything like it. 

-yeah it wasnt a d line like balt or houston or a team who will show up every down.

In response to Philskiw1's comment:

yup hope it boosts his confidence.

against a better qb, they wont underthrow and when he gets beat (including in one of the intercepts) and several other times during the buff game, the receiver will walk in the end zone with the ball if he doesnt keep improving.

Bredbru~

Any chance I just get a real quick list of those 2012 Fantasy Football Top Performers that you like, from which I've made mention of in the past on several occassions now?  Again, it's not gonna help me much, by giving the guys that'cha think are gonna have superstar years, all alone...  In particular, I need a list of the guys ya love, AND (especially) the guys and teams that you personally, believe are the worst players and teams in the entire NFL.  And If that's too much...just those ya wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, should do the trick. 

See, I wanna retire early & in terms of either random chance, or even someone deliberately going outta their way to be incorrect as often as you...well- (I'm not even sure ANY-one can be 100% wrong, ALL the time...without just 1 correct prediction, right?). 

I'll help:

McCourty's already on it, o.k.?  After 4 games, he's got something like 22TTs, a few stuffs, 2 INTs, 3 or 4 KRs for 24 yards a pop, and 8 more PDs...  Now who else doesn't even belong in your estimation, on an NFL team (you go from here)-  Pretty sure early on, ya liked Hightower, b/c Chandler Jones wasn't AS filled out during offseason OTAs in shorts and tees...so I got Jones, but in particular, I need to know whom you trully DESPISE, alright? 

For some reason I'm having difficulty getting my head around how an offense that puts up 52 points (despite two turnovers and two missed field goals) is being 'mismanaged.'  But perhaps that's just me.