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Crusty, here are the transactions from just last year. Do you want 6 years worth? LOL FAIL
02/14/2013 Ron Brace - Signed to Redskins 01/28/2013 Cyhl Quarles - Signed to Bears 01/22/2013 Armond Armstead - Signed to Patriots 01/21/2013 Jeff Tarpinian - Signed to Patriots 01/21/2013 Andre Holmes - Signed to Patriots 01/21/2013 Tracy Robertson - Signed to Patriots 01/21/2013 James Develin - Signed to Patriots 01/21/2013 Jeremy Ebert - Signed to Patriots 01/19/2013 Marcus Forston - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 01/11/2013 Jeremiah Warren - Signed to Cardinals 01/08/2013 Andre Holmes - Practice squad addition to Patriots 01/04/2013 Marcus Benard - Signed to Patriots 01/04/2013 Mike Kafka - Signed to Patriots 01/02/2013 Bret Lockett - Signed to Jets 01/02/2013 Ross Ventrone - Signed to Steelers 01/01/2013 Tracy Robertson - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/29/2012 Malcolm Williams - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 12/29/2012 Ron Brace - Cut from Patriots 12/29/2012 Kamar Aiken - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 12/26/2012 Kamar Aiken - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/26/2012 James Develin - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/26/2012 Cyhl Quarles - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/24/2012 Jermaine Cunningham - Suspension lifted 12/24/2012 James Develin - Cut from Patriots 12/24/2012 Kamar Aiken - Cut from Patriots 12/24/2012 Tony Logan - Practice squad deletion from Patriots 12/24/2012 Jeremiah Warren - Practice squad deletion from Patriots 12/22/2012 Kamar Aiken - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 12/19/2012 Jarred Fayson - Practice squad addition to Saints 12/18/2012 Tommie Draheim - Practice squad addition to Jaguars 12/12/2012 Deion Branch - Signed to Patriots 12/12/2012 Dustin Waldron - Practice squad addition to Chiefs 12/12/2012 Tony Logan - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/11/2012 Tommie Draheim - Practice squad deletion from Patriots 12/11/2012 Visanthe Shiancoe - Cut from Patriots 12/05/2012 Mitch Petrus - Acquired from waivers to Titans 12/04/2012 Tommie Draheim - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/04/2012 Colin Miller - Practice squad addition to Patriots 12/04/2012 Mitch Petrus - Cut from Patriots 12/04/2012 Donte' Stallworth - Signed to Patriots 12/03/2012 Matt Kopa - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 12/03/2012 Brandon Bolden - Suspension lifted 12/01/2012 Sterling Moore - Signed to Cowboys 11/28/2012 Jeremy Ebert - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/28/2012 Jerrell Harris - Practice squad addition to Raiders 11/28/2012 James Develin - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 11/27/2012 Derek Dennis - Practice squad addition to Bears 11/26/2012 Jermaine Cunningham - Suspended from Patriots - 4 games (NFL Policy on PEDs) 11/23/2012 Greg Salas - Signed to Eagles 11/22/2012 Greg Salas - Cut from Patriots 11/22/2012 Markus Zusevics - Activated from physically unable to perform list to Patriots 11/20/2012 Brian Hoyer - Signed to Steelers 11/20/2012 Malcolm Williams - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/19/2012 Kamar Aiken - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/17/2012 Malcolm Williams - Cut from Patriots 11/17/2012 Deion Branch - Cut from Patriots 11/17/2012 Jarred Fayson - Practice squad deletion from Patriots 11/17/2012 Greg Salas - Activated from the practice squad to Patriots 11/13/2012 Mitch Petrus - Signed to Patriots 11/13/2012 Jerrell Harris - Practice squad deletion from Patriots 11/13/2012 Jeff Tarpinian - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/12/2012 Aqib Talib - Suspension lifted 11/12/2012 Jeff Tarpinian - Cut from Patriots 11/09/2012 Brandon Bolden - Suspended from Patriots - 4 games (NFL Policy on PEDs) 11/07/2012 Alex Silvestro - Practice squad addition to Ravens 11/06/2012 Jerrell Harris - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/02/2012 Sterling Moore - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/01/2012 Jarred Fayson - Practice squad addition to Patriots 11/01/2012 Aqib Talib - Traded from Buccaneers to Patriots - for 4th-round draft pick in 2013 10/31/2012 Sterling Moore - Cut from Patriots 10/31/2012 Derrick M
These are mostly fringe players. I am not following along your word battle fully but are you seriously trying to insinuate there is lack of continuity because of managing the roster with fringe players or through injuries and suspensions?
Please tell me you are not. That would be a horrendous argument to make.
That is only a partial list, from 10/31 onwards. I posted the full list for the proceding months dating bach to the start of FA.
It clearly shows many failed aqusitions of depth players and starters that failed. They had 13 recievers to start camp, basically to replace other failed recievers from the procedeing years and not one of them stuck. Branch was cut 3 times and re-signed due to necessity and the 10 other recievers that failed. They kept LLoyd but was he really the answer? My feeling is that he will be cut, maybe this year.
The fact is, that because of poor recent drafting and FA pick-ups, there are many holes to fill. There would be no need to put 150 guys through camp (not all fringe type) if needs had been met. Yes, I know some are fodder but that doesn't dismiss not being able to pick up a decent reciever or a whole defensive backfield or someone (any one) that can rush a passer, in the past 6 years and not have all said players replaced the following year.
I was going to say the QB, RB's, TE's, entire O line, your two primary WR's were all on the team two years or more and the other WR played in the identical offensive system so although he was new, the system was not knew to him.
That is a ton of consistency.
On the D side. You had two 2 of the 3 LB's returning(really all 3 but one moved to DE), The entire interrior D-line. Neither defensive end but one fomr the team because he moved to DE from LB, 2 of the 4/5 starting DB's returning. They drafted a DE in the 1st round to replace an injured and aging DE from last season, who WAS a successful FA pickup. The LB that was moved to DE(Nink) also replaced a successful FA pickup of last year. Another 1st rounder was used to replace the LB spot vacated by the move of Nink to DE.
There is some position movement within the D but still a lot of consitency in personell.
The Pats have also tried moves they haven't been able to pull off such as going after Goldson to adress the safety position but not being able to land him. ...or going after Reggie Wayne. Seems they identified the right talent but could not land them. Do we kill them for not paying whatever it took to get them to come or praise them for not getting themselves in finacial trouble? Do we praise them for correctly identifying guys who can clearly play even though they could not sign them? I have no answers to those questions but at least they give a more complete picture.
Like I said I did not know the whole story with your fued so if out of context, my bad.