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Man, people get on me to let this go, which I do until these same people keep it going with more and more threads.
It's all about who you believe. The Patriots have used the strong arm tactic before, does it not surprise you they did it here again? More and more stories continue to come out on what happened,,
From Breer on NFL network today:
The Patriots' final offer was two years for $10 million. Incentives could have pushed the deal to $16 million. The offer to Welker included $1 million incentives for making All-Pro each year, $1 million incentives for 1,500 yards receiving each year, $1 million for being a Pro Bowl starter in 2014 and $1 million for 1,300 yards in 2014. According to the source, Welker's camp then suggested something in the range of the two-year, $14 million that the Titans offered the receiver, with incentives to push it to $16 million.
Those are some pretty tough incentives to meet especially if they continued to try and phase him out of the offense with less playing time.
Wow - talk about incentives. I guess when you are the best in the league at your position the bar has to be set pretty high. And with that comment, the question must be begged - for all that the guy has done for the franchise and with Brady's restructuring, the pats couldn't come up with a few bucks more to allow Wes to accomplish what Kraft said he wanted?
Based on those incentives, this isn't about market value. those parameters indicate that Welker performs well above market value. The patriots just aren't willing to pay for that.
Welker couldn't come down a few bucks? They ovepaid him with the franchise tag last year. What do you say about that UD?
Are we going to consider prior years now? Excellent idea. Given Welker's production he was considerably underpaid for his prior 5 year deal at 18.1 mill. 3.6 per year? Really? I think 3 franchise tags would be required to get Welker's pay in line with his production.
Thing is, he didn't ask for that, but the pats wanted him to take 2 years and 10 mill. That's a heckuva lot of thanks. not.
Fact is unlike Brady and Mankins, Welker played out his contract with minimal complaint. Bob Kraft recognized a situation he could take advantage of and he did it. Nothing wrong with that until he says disingenuous things like he wants Welker to be a patriot for life or wants to be seen as a compassionate owner.
"Take advantage of" or think that the TEAM comes first? This is a flat cap hasn't changed much since 2009, Brady, Mankins and Wlfork were HERE BEFORE WELKER. They HAD to get paid before Wes. There was nothing Kraft could do other than trade one of those 3. I suggested a tag and trade on Mankins in 2010. Who knows if they got a 2nd rd offer. They may not have.
Someone was going to get squeezed. Once Welker played games in 2011 rejecting a very generous deal of 16 million GUARANTEED, that was it. There is no way BB and Kraft are going to allow one player's wishes hold up the deal here. No way. That goes for Brady, too. He knows it.
Wes and the agent, apparently, didn't know it.
Welker would not have even made the 9.5 million last year if he got stuck in Miami in 2007, 2008 and 2009 in that mess. So, he really wasn't that underpaid at all on the market. He was the slot market. Like I said, name me another slot WR in this league. You can't do it because no one lines up in the slot play after play with his success.
He's had a great run here and he's a good dude, a very hard worker, and deserves whatever he can get and wants, but to pretend Kraft or BB shouldn't look out for the team to cater to past laurels in a tight market is an arrogant premise from a VERY JEALOUS Colts fan.
Polian can't hold BB's personnel sheet.
You always try to make it seem like what you're really jealous of (which is a superior owner GM and coach) is the devil, when the irony is, putting the team before one's own personal wishes is what started this whole dynasty in 2001.
Drew Bledsoe was not above the team in 2001. Welker not above it in 2013.