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    Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 2:08 AM EDT

    For everyone who's in love with trading for Fitzgerald

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/larry-fitzgerald/

    YEAR BASE S. BONUS MISC. CAP HIT DEAD
    2011 2,000,000 5,000,000 4,500,000 11,500,000 -
    2012 5,000,000 5,000,000 4,500,000 14,500,000 -
    2013 5,000,000 2,000,000 3,250,000 10,250,000 18,000,000
    2014 12,750,000 2,000,000 3,250,000 18,000,000 13,000,000
    2015 8,000,000 2,000,000 11,250,000 21,250,000 8,000,000
    2016 15,000,000 - 3,250,000 18,250,000 3,000,000
    2017 14,750,000 - 250,000 15,000,000 -
    2018 14,750,000 - 250,000 15,000,000 -

     

    A couple of things. Virtually impossible to restructure his cap hit in a reasonable sum. 2013 is already the lowest hit and it's at 10 million. These are QB-esque cap hits. Very unreasonable to tie up over 20% of the cap into two players.

    Also, pay cuts generally don't happen. Tom Brady, who may want to win more than anybody, didn't necessarily take a pay cut. He restructured his contract with an extension that added more guarantees. I doubt we would want Larry past 2018. Raven hero Boldin even refused to take a pay cut, despite proclaiming his love for the franchise. Upper echelon players don't typically don't take pay cuts. I think the Union would be pretty unhappy if they did.

    And even if he did decide to take a paycut, you still have to worry about using the Fax machine :)

     

    Sorry, but a bunch of these Fitzgerald trade propositions make 0 sense. And even if the Pats did want to trade for him, he is not worth a crapload of top picks/players. He's a great player, but his contract is a salary cap nightmare. Those two pretty much cancel each other out.

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 2:31 AM EDT

    They also pine for a Ferrari.

     
     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 2:58 AM EDT

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    For everyone who's in love with trading for Fitzgerald

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/larry-fitzgerald/

    YEAR BASE S. BONUS MISC. CAP HIT DEAD 2011 2,000,000 5,000,000 4,500,000 11,500,000 - 2012 5,000,000 5,000,000 4,500,000 14,500,000 - 2013 5,000,000 2,000,000 3,250,000 10,250,000 18,000,000 2014 12,750,000 2,000,000 3,250,000 18,000,000 13,000,000 2015 8,000,000 2,000,000 11,250,000 21,250,000 8,000,000 2016 15,000,000 - 3,250,000 18,250,000 3,000,000 2017 14,750,000 - 250,000 15,000,000 - 2018 14,750,000 - 250,000 15,000,000 -

     

    A couple of things. Virtually impossible to restructure his cap hit in a reasonable sum. 2013 is already the lowest hit and it's at 10 million. These are QB-esque cap hits. Very unreasonable to tie up over 20% of the cap into two players.

    Also, pay cuts generally don't happen. Tom Brady, who may want to win more than anybody, didn't necessarily take a pay cut. He restructured his contract with an extension that added more guarantees. I doubt we would want Larry past 2018. Raven hero Boldin even refused to take a pay cut, despite proclaiming his love for the franchise. Upper echelon players don't typically don't take pay cuts. I think the Union would be pretty unhappy if they did.

    And even if he did decide to take a paycut, you still have to worry about using the Fax machine :)

     

    Sorry, but a bunch of these Fitzgerald trade propositions make 0 sense. And even if the Pats did want to trade for him, he is not worth a crapload of top picks/players. He's a great player, but his contract is a salary cap nightmare. Those two pretty much cancel each other out.



    Thank you

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 6:29 AM EDT

    Ye Gods, thanks for posting this.  Glad I'm not the only who sees a trade for him as a virtual impossibility.

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 6:35 AM EDT

    Worst contract in theNFL? Great player, horrible contract

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 6:36 AM EDT

    In response to rkarp's comment:

    Worst contract in theNFL? Great player, horrible contract




    Amen, brother.

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 6:51 AM EDT

    In response to dapats1281's comment:

    For everyone who's in love with trading for Fitzgerald

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/larry-fitzgerald/

    YEAR BASE S. BONUS MISC. CAP HIT DEAD 2011 2,000,000 5,000,000 4,500,000 11,500,000 - 2012 5,000,000 5,000,000 4,500,000 14,500,000 - 2013 5,000,000 2,000,000 3,250,000 10,250,000 18,000,000 2014 12,750,000 2,000,000 3,250,000 18,000,000 13,000,000 2015 8,000,000 2,000,000 11,250,000 21,250,000 8,000,000 2016 15,000,000 - 3,250,000 18,250,000 3,000,000 2017 14,750,000 - 250,000 15,000,000 - 2018 14,750,000 - 250,000 15,000,000 -

     

    A couple of things. Virtually impossible to restructure his cap hit in a reasonable sum. 2013 is already the lowest hit and it's at 10 million. These are QB-esque cap hits. Very unreasonable to tie up over 20% of the cap into two players.

    Also, pay cuts generally don't happen. Tom Brady, who may want to win more than anybody, didn't necessarily take a pay cut. He restructured his contract with an extension that added more guarantees. I doubt we would want Larry past 2018. Raven hero Boldin even refused to take a pay cut, despite proclaiming his love for the franchise. Upper echelon players don't typically don't take pay cuts. I think the Union would be pretty unhappy if they did.

    And even if he did decide to take a paycut, you still have to worry about using the Fax machine :)

     

    Sorry, but a bunch of these Fitzgerald trade propositions make 0 sense. And even if the Pats did want to trade for him, he is not worth a crapload of top picks/players. He's a great player, but his contract is a salary cap nightmare. Those two pretty much cancel each other out.



    Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Perhaps that will put some of this foolishness to rest.

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 11:32 AM EDT

    Totally agree that the dead money on this contract makes a trade impossible. AZ would totally be screwed.

    Just want to point out that if Fitz were traded, the Cap Hit numbers you list would change significantly as that dead money would not travel with him. I believe 2013 -2015 would each be 5M less and 2016 would be 3M less.

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 11:37 AM EDT

    In response to rkarp's comment:

    Worst contract in theNFL? Great player, horrible contract



    It is truly awful.

     

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    Re: Larry Fitzgerald Contract #'s

    posted at 3/16/2013 6:45 PM EDT

    Bummer. Would love to have his skills on the Patriots. Poor guy is gonna be the Barry Sanders of WRs. All that talent on a scrbb team.