Re: Last night did turn out as many expected.. right?
posted at 9/13/2013 3:14 PM EDT
In response to pcmIV's comment:
In response to zbellino's comment:
That is the second thing baffling me about this.
Eveyone on this board knew it was going to be tough going without Gronk and witha totally fresh corps (except a few who didn't want to admit it, and some others who were waving pom poms).
The questions were: Can the running game carry the offense? No. Will the rookies be ahead of the curve? No. Can the second year defenders make this into a defense that can win those low scoring games? So far ...a resounding yes.
And I think those answers were the expected answers.
The other thing baffling is how all of a sudden everyone seems to think that receiving football coaching or leadership should be like receiving life advice from Stuart Smalley. That's a story for another thread.
To be honest, I'm just shocked that there aren't more defensive threads praising that unit. Yes, Buffalo and the Jets are probably two of the worst offenses in the NFL ... but in two weeks, without the usual high score, consistent field position, and consistent first down support from the offense that they've been accustomed too, they've allowed just 24 points on an astounding 29 drives!!
That is less than a point per drive. It's really incredible how they've hung in there. That is a result from how much Dennard, Jones, et al, have improved.
But instead we get like five wierd threads about how a vet yelled at a rookie. lol
It is amusing seeing all the people complaining that none of our old folks home WR from last season could get any separation are now panicking after 2 weeks and want BB to bring back Jenkins or even Moss. Hell I even saw a thread about Branch although perhaps it was in jest. The expectations for these rookie WR were completely out of whack. AJ Green is the only rookie WR in like the last 5 seasons to break 1000 yards and he is a freak. The problem now is that no Gronk, Hern, Vereen or Amendola means more pressure on the rookies to produce. I knew Amendola had injury issues and Gronk might miss a few games, but I think the loss of Hernandez in particular blindsided the team and Vereen was obviously a big loss as well. Hopefully we get them all back when the games really matter.
P.S. I agree about the defense. Amazing how some posters refuse to give them any credit and will come up with any excuse to dismiss ridiculous efficiency stats.
Most of that is rooted in the board-consuming offense v defense (Brady v Belichik) Hatfield and McCoys thing.
No, I don't want to see Moss back. He was washed. A healthy Lloyd would help, but only because the rookies aren't ready ... Lloyd was not the future, he was barely the present.
I just want to see the players that are prepared and good be healthy.
And yes, the BB bashers will dismiss this defense. Well, if this were last year, or the year before, with those defenses? NE would be a stone cold 0-2 right now.
Holding the Jets and Bills to 10 and 14 points is what GOOD defenses do. Note ... NE's past defense really struggled with those offenses. Sanchez has a career rating 7 points beneath what he posts against NE, and Fitzpatrick has thrown for almost as many yards against NE as he has against Miami and New Jersey combined.
But people are so invested in climbing down BB's throat about the defense that they are failing to see that those were huge, astounding performances. NE hasn't won a single game on the strength of defense alone since 2008. They haven't been able to hang their hat on it since 2004. They just won two big ones ... one, against NJ ... was a sight to behold as they defended the field 14 times with possibly three sustained offensive drives all game!!!!
If this were the same defense from the past four years, NE would be 0-2 right now.
And the Brady-bashers want to dismiss the effect of playing with rookies. If even Welker were still here ... none of these conversations are happening right now, because NE would have scored more points in last night's game.
Anyone who didn't see this coming was cheerleading and not thinking, or they were so invested in Brady hate that they wouldn't (won't) admit how talent drained the offense is right now after losing Welker to FA, Hern to psychopathy, and Amendola and Gronk to injury. Otherwise the story about how "all you need to do is give Ridley>Benny>Whoever that ball" story would just die ... because right now .... obviously .... painfully .... that is proven dead, flat wrong.
Later on this season, when NE is still in the hunt, people will be grateful for Tom's leadership and his error free play and grateful for these great defensive performances.
The team will get healthy, and the rookies will improve. Right now, they are winning with a QB who isn't putting the defense in a hole (as opposed to having the entire fate of the teamthrust on his shoulders), and a defense that is stopping the other team (instead of making mediocre QBs look good). That is all. And it is refreshing.