Let's get back to running up the score

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    Let's get back to running up the score

    How about this for a solution to to our late 4th qtr scoring problems.

     

    Let's just put pedal to the metal for the whole game. Forget about running out the clock.....what do you think?

     

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    How about running the ball, better balance?

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    Late in games, we seem to abandon what works for prevent defense and prevent offense.

     

    I say keep the foot on the gas for all 60 minutes. Running the ball works for me.

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    Pedal to the medal for 60 minutes!

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:

    Late in games, we seem to abandon what works for prevent defense and prevent offense.

    I say keep the foot on the gas for all 60 minutes. Running the ball works for me.



    I'm afraid that this may be the case for going pass first to get ahead quickly - for now until they get the house in order, I'm not advocating it -  but it's not the overall solution. Confusing the opposing D as much as possible is the key. It's better done with Tommie under center for obvious reasons and allows more options, I think anyway, for runs, pass, PA, screens etc. Keeping him in the shotgun? No need to explain, NO! I've seen where the Pats play a tight TE formation and appears a run and usually is, but Tommie UC, with his intelligence takes his pick and will pass. Got to have the appearance of a run at all times.

    Confusion tactics also work for the D especially when the talent is thin a sours. Do blitz or don't has it's positives and negatives but with the talent the Pats have we need to get after the QB becuase if they don't we have already seen what happens, a big gainer and first down. So I think it's better to Confuse and Gamble more and I think the chips will fall in our favor more than not. That's what i would do from a fans perspective. Just remember though it was the Brain fahrts from Management that cost a game or two, not all miscues on the field.

    Seems management is a bit Confused lately.

    Have a good night ...

     

     

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    I agree we become too predictable with our formations, and that's part of the problem.

    If you think back to the 49ers era, they were very creative on offense. Having a dual threat RB like Roger Craig helped give them that advantage.

    RIdley is the closest we have for that role. Atlthough I was hoping Vereen would be our dual threat RB.

    In response to palookaski's comment:

    In response to pats-fan-2007's comment:

    Late in games, we seem to abandon what works for prevent defense and prevent offense.

    I say keep the foot on the gas for all 60 minutes. Running the ball works for me.



    I'm afraid that this may be the case for going pass first to get ahead quickly - for now until they get the house in order, I'm not advocating it -  but it's not the overall solution. Confusing the opposing D as much as possible is the key. It's better done with Tommie under center for obvious reasons and allows more options, I think anyway, for runs, pass, PA, screens etc. Keeping him in the shotgun? No need to explain, NO! I've seen where the Pats play a tight TE formation and appears a run and usually is, but Tommie UC, with his intelligence takes his pick and will pass. Got to have the appearance of a run at all times.

    Confusion tactics also work for the D especially when the talent is thin a sours. Do blitz or don't has it's positives and negatives but with the talent the Pats have we need to get after the QB becuase if they don't we have already seen what happens, a big gainer and first down. So I think it's better to Confuse and Gamble more and I think the chips will fall in our favor more than not. That's what i would do from a fans perspective. Just remember though it was the Brain fahrts from Management that cost a game or two, not all miscues on the field.

    Seems management is a bit Confused lately.

    Have a good night ...

     

     




     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    In response to MasterHess-'s comment:

    Big talk from as fan base whose team is just 3 and 3. The Jets are coming to town and I hope that the pats are taking them as lightly as you,the horribly accented are.

     

     I remember last year before the SB all the drivel and false bravado that was spewing from the mouths of pats fans everywhere. Look what that got you



    Seems Jets fans sound the same...  except their team can't back it up most of the time!

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    I'm pretty sure they tried that with both Sea and Balt and nether worked. Correct me if I wrong but they ran the hurry up and also threw more attempts at 10+yds against Sea in the second half then any other game previously and it resulted in 6 points. Sure it sounds great but in actual play it doesn't work.

    I like the idea of staying agressive though as the game progresses but that takes 2 critical things:

     

    • committing to a running game early so that it's available when you need it. If you don't run it all game it's hard to get everyone up to run it in the end. And, yes that means even if you are only getting 3.3ypc you still need to run it for more benefits late in the game then the 3.3ypc provide early in the game
    • As the game progresses you need to move towards higher % plays. Brady's getting older and the line wears down with the hurry up and full on attack approach. As such the longer you have the pedal to the floor the harder those low % plays are to make and the higher the chance of sacks and turn overs (it's actually scary the difference in play for turn overs, sacks, and pressures from the 4th quarter compared to the previous 3 with this O). Switching to a higher % dink and dunk team late in the game takes the pressure off of everyone and keeps the ball moving

    Just airing it out and trying for the big knock out play is what cost us a number of games. As the game gets longer they do need to stay aggressive but they need to simplify it to make it easier on the O to execute

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    Dink and dunk passes 

    why did we stray from that?

     
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    Re: Let's get back to running up the score

    I think the Patriots are always trying to run up the score. That is why they went for the TD at the end of the half instead of just settling for a FG one play earlier.

    The problem becomes when teams keep it close and manage to slow down the Patriots offense. This is a below .500 team in close games over that last 4 seasons.

     
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