Re: Lets just say...
posted at 7/2/2013 10:49 AM EDT
In response to csylvia79's comment:
In response to RallyC's comment:
In response to csylvia79's comment:
If the pats did go back to a Charlie Weis play style with the current team...... you do realize that fan expectations would have to go back to seeing a punt as not such a bad thing. Ball control limits making mistakes but often causes way more third and long and punting scenarios. My question is can the current D pick up the slack if the Pats had a game manager as QB instead of TB? If you look at that time period the Pats didn't even score on many drives, just looking at their tougher games box score they were hard fought defensive games but the D was up to the task of stopping the other team.
As fans we have gone so far away from this play style.... just the expectation of Brady and the O to be perfect and score on almost every drive is unreal. I honestly can't remember the last time I knew the D was going to get the ball back, here is to hope those days are coming. To soon Brady will be gone and hopefully these fair-weather fans who think what we have seen from this team over the years is a given. Not that I don't want the Pats to win the Superbowl but man the entitled Superbowl or bust season fans are in for an eye opener in the future. Runs like this don't happen and enjoy what we have in the way it is now.
I'm ready for the rabid response even before I finish this post! Fear not man........Based on the progress that the Pats made on defense, more so with individual develpment and maturity at the respective positions than was proven by team performance, aded to the players and depth to be on the field in 2013-14, I tell you that THIS YEAR'S D WILL BE THE BEST PATS D in a very long time. Our secondary will prove to be a strength and our rund D is more than adequate.
As for Tom Brady leaving meaning the PATS headed to mediocrity......NOT TRUE. Tom Brady is one of, if not the very best NFL QBs in history. This isn't because of his amazing physical or mental capabilities. HOLD ON!!!! before yu all start on me!!!! Tom Brady found the perfect situation for his skill set, and Bill B. and Charlie W. found the perfect QB for what they wanted to do. CHEMISTRY proved perfect. As long as BB can find a similar type QB in Tom's absence, The Patriots will be there fighting for a championship. See, BB is the greatest coach in NFL history. BB has just as much to do with Tom's success, if not more, than even does Tom. Babe slammed me for calling Tom a "System QB". OKay, bad choice of words. Tom is an excellent, prototypical QB for what BB has accepted as his preferred style of offense. Ryan Mallett would be another guy with an excellent chance be incredibley successful in this offense. Matt C. and 11-5, which shold have been god enough for the play-offs shows how physically and mentally gifted a QB playing for BB has really has to be. I often wonder what a Big Ben could have done as the Pats QB with his freakish skills. Don't kill me for saying that, please. I hate the Steelers and Ben, but admire the guys athleticism for such a big dude.
I say all of this to say, DON'T worry so much about the D this year, you'll soon see that we are much improved. Don't worry so much about life after Tom. Its life after Bill that I would be more concerned with. GO PATS!
I have to say the just becuase Matt C went 11 - 5 with a team that was 16-0 the year before does not mean Brady is a SYSTEM QB. An if six team were 11-5 wouldn't that also say it was an odd year.... the seperation between the good and struggling teams was greater.... don't know. I do know Matt C became nothing special outside of NE. I think Brady would have thrived on a number of teams. Has BB formed a team around those skill sets... of course any coach would try to, but the offense and Qb position during 2008 was down in scoring,yards, attempts, and dynamic plays. I say it was more of a testimate to the D stepping up without Brady getting to 11-5.
I'm also not saying the team is going to drop off a cliff... but if you think the team is going to keep going on the clip of score to 50% of its drives when Brady is gone.... people are about to be in a rude awakening.
I cjust clarified that Tom is not a "System QB". He is a beneificiary of having an offense that fits his physical strengths and abilities with the Patriots. There is a big difference. A true "system QB" is forced into the system regardless of their natural skills and abilities. Again, I woouldn't start worrying until BB leaves. Then, we lose the mechanic of the car, Tom's just the driver of it right no. BUT I'd rather not have any other driver for as long as he is available. Please don't lose sight that Tom has passed his prime and now Bill must adjust his plan to accommodate for his natural decline. In doing so, Bill will keep Tom very effective and the Patriots very successful. Eventualy, there will be another player who is ready for his chance to drive, and will do well, just like Matty C. did. Hard to visualize because of the success that Tom has enjoyed and the way we have all put Tommy on that pedestal, but I for one think he would not have succeeded to the extent that he has if not for being the QB of the NE Patriots. He just isn't that amazingly physically gifterd athlete.