Re: LIKE BELICHICK, LIKE MANKINS.. SO Y THE DRAMA?
posted at 2/5/2011 6:40 AM EST
In Response to Re: LIKE BELICHICK, LIKE MANKINS.. SO Y THE DRAMA?
The difference is that Mankins was slandering the Pats and specifically, Kraft. Kraft felt that if ammends were going to be made and he was going to save face, and apology was in order. Goodell laid the pipe sideways to BB and the Pats, and then to add insult to injury apparently wanted a public apology as well.
Posted by agill1970
c, thats y i start threads like these... hoping against hope that some of you would step away a bit from the koolaid and put yourself in other perspectives. first, i do not see how mankins slandered mr. kraft and the pats. they did lie in a technical sense and he is right. was brady not taken care of? did he not get his money upfront? did he not become the highest paid at his position? from reading between the lines, this is what was promised to mankins. so what he uses a strong word, those are his feelings and thoughts as it were with welker, plus he technically was not a member of the pats at that time since he had not signed his tender or anything else.
secondly to GOODELL, like it or not he is the commissioner and deserves some respect for he did not just inherit or fall into his position of power and authority, bel was supposed to respect the man's rank if not the man himself. there are many players i am sure who think or have felt that bel is full of it and not worthy to make some of the demands he does, but so what.. they have to respect his position and submit to his plans or else... to GOODELL, bel was no different than mankins... i am quoting and paraphrasing goodell from his interview with peter king. its not subtle, he felt he was LIED to!
you do not get a vote, i do not get a vote, bel doesnt get one or mr. kraft.. the commissioner gets the only and final say on how he interprets a lie in the same way bel did with welker and mankins.. got it? mankins does not feel that he LIED, but he went along with the private aplogy anyways and never confirmed that he did anything wrong by the way.. welk like the rest of the players i assume promised to go along with the bel tight lip policy so technically he lied too... i do not see where welk confirms that and frankly i do not think he did. but so what, only one man gets a vote and thats belichick.. that's my point!
like with mankins (and welk to a lesser degree) only bel gets a vote, like with bel with spygate, only goody gets a vote! the rest is white noise. bel should have stood there like a man and admitted that he CHEATED (which he did) and that he lied (which he did when he like the other coaches pledged to stop illegally filming and he put himself above his nfl peers and team by ignoring)...its still not too late. he should stand up there at some point during the off-season and do a mea culpa. fact is his defiance has hurt this team. do you think the refs do not read the papers and talk amongst themselves? you think they do not know where goody stands and how their bread gets buttered and who butters it?
i am sure now more than ever that the pats get extra-punishment on the field to appease goody's rightful rage and spite. people are human. as i have said on other threads, bel has an issue with with basic relational empathy outside his own team (friends and family too i speculate). like it or not, agree or disagree, goody feels that he got played and is still carrying that hurt 4 years later. bel should let down his ego and appease him, right or wrong, for the greater benefit of the team. perhaps we will get some peyton calls in the playoffs going forward. you can bet your life the tuck rule will go against us right now thanks to bel's unnecessary stubbornness!
i am sure bel apologized to goody privately as did mankins. difference is that manks does not need the pats to accomplish his goals anymore. like with adam vinatieri in '06, you put him out there as a free agent and he will get even more money than the pats will pay... most likely from a team that has actually won a playoff game or two in the last 3 years. be it indy, saints, giants or bears!
with all this said, i am still a bb loyalist. i just think like everyone else he too has flaws and it is sometimes good to step away from the koolaid tea party to critique him also!