Lloyd (and other camp reviews) looks like a stud makng catches no matter where the qbs throw the ball, on the money, too high, wrong side, too lowe.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lloyd (and other camp reviews) looks like a stud makng catches no matter where the qbs throw the ball, on the money, too high, wrong side, too lowe. : " We need to make the corners and safeties scared of what could happen behind them or to the outside, so they can't focus on the middle part of the field.  Honestly, that will help the short game you are looking for too, because it won't be as safe for defenders to come up and crowd the LOS. " agreed i wrote that all last year
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    No doubt, bredbru.  A lot of us saw this.  And in his interview with Kirwan and Ryan, Brady pretty much confirmed what we've been saying.  Last year, the receiving corps couldn't challenge the outer parts of the field and defenses adjusted accordingly.  Next year, it's looking like things will be different. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lloyd (and other camp reviews) looks like a stud makng catches no matter where the qbs throw the ball, on the money, too high, wrong side, too lowe. : No doubt, bredbru.  A lot of us saw this.  And in his interview with Kirwan and Ryan, Brady pretty much confirmed what we've been saying.  Last year, the receiving corps couldn't challenge the outer parts of the field and defenses adjusted accordingly.  Next year, it's looking like things will be different. 
    Posted by prolate0spheroid[/QUOTE]

    hell yeah!

    and if we have a back who can make them pay, with potential breakaway speed. they wont be able to cheat against the pass!
     
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    re
    Gallery owned Fanene.

    other way around.
    less owned but threw him around a bit, and got by easily

    several sources dont remember which. mebbe one  fo teh local boston media


    Well Reiss saya he's stood out. 

    DL Jonathan Fanene. The team's marquee free-agent signing has been a tough block for interior offensive linemen, specifically in one-on-one drills. Although much of the media attention has centered on how the Patriots might replace the 20 combined sacks of Andre Carter and Mark Anderson, it somewhat overlooks that pressure can come from more than just the edge. Fanene is a high-motor, athletic lineman who figures to play a key role in sub packages as an interior rusher -- a Jarvis Green-type role.

    I saw something about Jones and Solder squaring off but nothing on Fanene. Care to site your source?

     
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    Re: LLoyd

    Pats will probably score 30 pts a game and lloyd
    will make it even easier (loved those over 20 yd stats
    from above)

    i am not going to worry about the season stats'=
    i think we have to see what happens against a top D
    _ like Sf. Balt. Houston - and see how lloyd helps us then

    I had thought b4 last year that the Pats were probably
    a year a way - cause of their Defense - they needed
    a few more studs - well now we have them

    its going to be a hell of a year
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lloyd (and other camp reviews) looks like a stud makng catches no matter where the qbs throw the ball, on the money, too high, wrong side, too lowe. : It wasn;t a strenght, but they challenged just fine.  It's not like Branch, Patten or Givens were some superstar 20 yard out perimiter receivers. It's that all ran routes well in the system and had good hands. Funny how Ocho, not used, ran sideline routes just fine for 15-20 yard catches, but simply wasn't used more. BB can't get Grade A WRs 1-5 and Grade TEs 1-3 with Grade A Rbs 1-4 with the 100% perfect skill set to cater to your boyfriend every year, Prolate. Give it a rest. You act like there is no cap.  Just stop it already.   Brady has been coddeld to the bejesus since 2007 (not 2009), in 2010 and last year. This year, I;ve never seen a set of weapons like this for any QB in NFL HISTORY. Yep. History. This makes Montana's weapons in the late 1980s look like nothing or Kurt Warner's look like junk.
    Posted by CliffordWasHere[/QUOTE]

    I disagree, put Roger Craig or Marshall Faulk on this team and even Bill Obrien couldn't have got in the way of a SB championship.
     
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    In Response to Re: Lloyd looks like a stud makng catches no matter where the qbs throw the ball, on the money, too high, wrong side, too lowe.:
    [QUOTE]This is really what deep threats do. There's a lot of faith in NFL QB's abilities. But in reality they cannot hit spots the size of a shoe box on a moving target 40 yards down field consistently. They put themselves in position to make the catch and find a way to come down with a ball in traffic. If Moss only caught passes in the breadbasket nobody would know his name. I'm sure many will disagree but if catching deep balls was all about QBs dropping the ball in the right space anyone who can run a 4.4 40 could be a deep threat. Lloyd is slow, undersized, and catches everything within 10 yards of him. Heard Bolden is showing up early too.
    Posted by shenanigan[/QUOTE]

    That's spot on. QBs throw to zones on deep routes, 50% of it, at least, is about WRs being able to adjust to the ball in mid flight. The QB is mostly trying to read whether the WR should come back for it, or go over the top.

    He isn't the fastest out there, but Lloyd has always had that 'feel' for the deep ball, and was always adept at adjusting mid flight, and midcatch to the ball. 

    Last season NE had no one. 

    If speed were all it took to be a great deep threat then Tate, Jackson, and a host of other players this team has brought in would have been stars. 

    The best deep threats NE has had have been Givens, Patten, and obviously Moss. NE would have been alright last season at the perimeter with one player as good as Givens or Patten, but their outside guys were old, slow, too short, and for the most part, just players that are better at sharp intermediate routes than at tracking a ball mid air and doing the sweet Lynn Swann thing.   
     
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    [QUOTE]re Gallery owned Fanene. other way around. less owned but threw him around a bit, and got by easily several sources dont remember which. mebbe one  fo teh local boston media Well Reiss saya he's stood out.  DL Jonathan Fanene . The team's marquee free-agent signing has been a tough block for interior offensive linemen, specifically in one-on-one drills. Although much of the media attention has centered on how the Patriots might replace the 20 combined sacks of Andre Carter and Mark Anderson , it somewhat overlooks that pressure can come from more than just the edge. Fanene is a high-motor, athletic lineman who figures to play a key role in sub packages as an interior rusher -- a Jarvis Green -type role. I saw something about Jones and Solder squaring off but nothing on Fanene. Care to site your source?
    Posted by Philskiw1[/QUOTE]

    2 sources said about the same thing re fanene and gallory. too far back fro me to try top re-aquire. sorry out that.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lloyd looks like a stud makng catches no matter where the qbs throw the ball, on the money, too high, wrong side, too lowe. : That's spot on. QBs throw to zones on deep routes, 50% of it, at least, is about WRs being able to adjust to the ball in mid flight. The QB is mostly trying to read whether the WR should come back for it, or go over the top. He isn't the fastest out there, but Lloyd has always had that 'feel' for the deep ball, and was always adept at adjusting mid flight, and midcatch to the ball.  Last season NE had no one.  If speed were all it took to be a great deep threat then Tate, Jackson, and a host of other players this team has brought in would have been stars.  The best deep threats NE has had have been Givens, Patten, and obviously Moss. NE would have been alright last season at the perimeter with one player as good as Givens or Patten, but their outside guys were old, slow, too short, and for the most part, just players that are better at sharp intermediate routes than at tracking a ball mid air and doing the sweet Lynn Swann thing.   
    Posted by zbellino[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. And really the thing they were missing most was just receivers that could separate. Watching guys like Brees and Rodgers and the separation their guys got, was night and day compared to the places Brady was fitting the ball. It was ridiculous. I would watch Rodgers just carelessly fling the ball into the hands of a receiver that shook his coverage with ease...Brees too.
     
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    [QUOTE]Right, Welker, Branch, Hernandez and Gronk don't "separate".  My god are you frauds pathetic. Yes, Brady is so up against the wall with talent here. Poor Tommy. Please just write Giselle a letter and see if you can become their butler or something.  Ugh.
    Posted by CliffordWasHere[/QUOTE]

    Listen I know you must be upset because your binky (Ocho) was a total bust here - and yeah it also does shed light on your football insight, but you need to get over it. It's ok, just move on and pick someone else to fall in love with - or you can just continue to cling to the NFL salary cap...what ever helps you. But you really should lay off Brady, because it's embarrassing to watch (even if you do get banned and this evidence in stupidity will vanish).

    It is fun though to watch your guy Ocho down there in Miami, isn't it? All happy and free from Brady and our stupid rules. I'm sure he'll be separating all over the field now that he's free - just like he did here - he'll just have a better QB throwing him the ball now. Right?
     
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