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    Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/27/2010 10:56 PM EDT

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/27/bill-polian-calls-18-game-schedule-a-done-deal/

    I don't think this is good news for football in 2011. What say you?
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/27/2010 10:58 PM EDT

    Before Polian said this, I didn't think they would play.  De-certifying the union makes me think its going to be a lock out.  too bad.  By the way, why can't Polian keep his mouth shut?  Last I checked, he doesn't run the league.  He just never closes his yap.  Cue Indylove here running to his rescue.  Slurping sounds follow.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/27/2010 11:59 PM EDT

    Polian is an idiot. 
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 2:00 AM EDT

    Polian is an idiot.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 4:07 AM EDT

    I think most NFL fans agree that 16 games already pushes the limits of players' health.

    I don't want to watch backups in January becuase the starters are all too hurt to play.  I'd rather have fewer games at higher quality.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 9:26 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    Polian is an idiot.
    Posted by IndyIove


    Nice - time to change the name.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 10:04 AM EDT

    Who the hell does this guy think he is??!!  He's NOT an owner, and I can't imagine the owners or Goodall appreciate his comments at this time. He basicly saying "to he** with what the player think or want I"m deciding what's good for for the NFL. When's somebody going to have the ba**s to tell this jerk to shut up!! I guess he has more power than the commisioner.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 10:35 AM EDT

    You folks are being really naive right now.   

    1.  Why criticize Polian when Kraft has publicly said he is ALL FOR IT.  

    Here are Krafts comments on an expanded season last month:

    *"I think it's a win-win all around,"
    *"I really think going to an 18-game season is critical to us getting a labor deal," he said. "There's not a lot ways in this economic environment we can generate incremental revenues. That's the best way.

    2.  Robert Kraft is one of the biggest proponents of increasing revenue, possibly because he and others like Jerry Jones have heavily leveraged themselves with team stadiums and additional amenities.  He also wants to eliminate revenue sharing and pocket as much money for himself as possible. 

    3.  The competition committee and Polian do not operate in a vacuum.  They are ultimately directed by the league/owners.  The committee would be charged with figuring out how the expanded schedule would work and how many games 17 or 18 would be best.  So Polian absolutely knows what is going on.

    One of the reasons that I post on this site is there seems to be a level of intelligence demonstrated by many.  Obviously, fandom gets in the way of that frequently, but it shouldn't in this case.  Know your team.  Know your owner. 

    The owners (or at least the powerful ones who need the money because they are leveraged to the hilt) want this.  The players do not.  Unless you did not know, there is a labor issue currently ongoing in the NFL right now, and its owners vs. players. 

    Wake up homers.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 11:13 AM EDT

    Kraft said "it was a win win all the way around" Polian said it was "fait accompli" Big difference HOMER!!!
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 11:19 AM EDT

    IMO this is a negotiation tactic.  They are going to act like they really want an 18 game season.  Then they will use it as a bargaining chip to get something they want more.  Like, OK cut back player salaries 5% and we will drop the 18 game season.  Essentially giving away something they never had. 

    That's just my opinion, but the owners make a living out of doing negotiations and they're probably pretty dam good at it.  I think it's a setup.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 11:30 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    You folks are being really naive right now.    1.  Why criticize Polian when Kraft has publicly said he is ALL FOR IT.   Here are Krafts comments on an expanded season last month: *"I think it's a win-win all around," *"I really think going to an 18-game season is critical to us getting a labor deal," he said. "There's not a lot ways in this economic environment we can generate incremental revenues. That's the best way. 2.  Robert Kraft is one of the biggest proponents of increasing revenue, possibly because he and others like Jerry Jones have heavily leveraged themselves with team stadiums and additional amenities.  He also wants to eliminate revenue sharing and pocket as much money for himself as possible.  3.  The competition committee and Polian do not operate in a vacuum.  They are ultimately directed by the league/owners.  The committee would be charged with figuring out how the expanded schedule would work and how many games 17 or 18 would be best.  So Polian absolutely knows what is going on. One of the reasons that I post on this site is there seems to be a level of intelligence demonstrated by many.  Obviously, fandom gets in the way of that frequently, but it shouldn't in this case.  Know your team.  Know your owner.  The owners (or at least the powerful ones who need the money because they are leveraged to the hilt) want this.  The players do not.  Unless you did not know, there is a labor issue currently ongoing in the NFL right now, and its owners vs. players.  Wake up homers.
    Posted by Indylove


    Know your team know your owners  guess you think Polian is the owner just as he does.

    His face looks like he threw up on it and forgot to wash it off. ugh!
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 11:49 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock : Know your team know your owners  guess you think Polian is the owner just as he does. His face looks like he threw up on it and forgot to wash it off. ugh!
    Posted by NEGAME


    Nice!  I am eating lunch!

    Underdogg sounds like a Hypocrite.....
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 11:59 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    Kraft said "it was a win win all the way around" Polian said it was "fait accompli" Big difference HOMER!!!
    Posted by NEGAME


    Game - polian is playing Krafts game for him.  Not a big difference.  The owners need someone to do some dirty work for them when necessary.  That is Polian in this case.  Polian is effectively Col. Jessup.  You just don't want to believe your Owner has his fingers ALL OVER this one as much as any other owner in the league.  Ol' Bob needs the money.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 12:03 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock : Know your team know your owners  guess you think Polian is the owner just as he does. His face looks like he threw up on it and forgot to wash it off. ugh!
    Posted by NEGAME

    Come now game - all of my information is in my post and you know it.  Nowhere is there a reference to Polian being an owner. 

    But hey, attack his face all you like. 
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 12:04 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock : Nice!  I am eating lunch! Underdogg sounds like a Hypocrite.....
    Posted by m1024us


    How so?
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 12:10 PM EDT

    ok dogg-e-dooo you think that saying during contract negotiations that an 18 game season is a done deal no options open to the players. Current and retired players are against this. BTW do you know that the Patriots are the only team that has not lost revenue in the last 2 years, can't say that about the Colts, maybe it's Irsay, o excuse me Polian, that needs the money. HMMM wonder why ole Peyton hasn't gotten a contract yet.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 12:32 PM EDT

    Polean nose jack. 
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:02 PM EDT

    I'm against going to 18 games as, I believe, most fan are, and reportedly most players.  Sixteen regular season game plus the playoffs is enough for me.

    But if the NFL keeps a total of 20 games on the schedule as has been discussed, reducing the number of pre-season games to two from four, then I think the players will reluctantly go along as long as they are well compensated in the new CBA, and they most certainly will be well compensated for the two additional regular season game, which happen to be much more intense and demanding than the pre-season games.

    But overall they will be playing 20 games total, same as before but with the 2 additional games carrying much more compensation from the league.

    On the other had, I'll be the first to admit that I have much to learn about this issue and about the CBA and potential lock-out.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:31 PM EDT

    Game - Look at Shen's email.  He's saying what I am saying.  This is a negotiation thing.  Since the start of the season we have started to see some manuevering.  For example, players are voting to decertify the union.  Now, the owners are starting to play some of their cards.  Polian is just a messenger.  He's not the devil here. 

    Of course the players are against it and they (including Peyton Manning) are making their comments about the enhanced schedule.   

    As for the revenue comment, I don't know where you got your info, but Forbes  says that the colts have increased their revenue in each of the last 2 years.  Maybe you can provide your source.   

    Finally, Manning's contract - Maybe he doesn't have it because he hasn't complained like Brady.  Maybe its because he reworked his contract a couple of times making it back loaded and is making 20 mill this year.  Maybe they are working on it now.  Maybe its not as much of an issue for him like it is Brady.  Whatever, the reason, we don't hear Manning or "sources" spouting off about the contract like we did with Brady.  
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:32 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    I think he wants it because it is the only way that Peyton can ever catch Favre's stats. Can't have Lord Peyton having fewer yards and TDs then a mediocre QB can we?
    Posted by FishTaco64


    What information leads you to believe that Manning cant or even wants to catch Favre's stats?
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:34 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    I'm against going to 18 games as, I believe, most fan are, and reportedly most players.  Sixteen regular season game plus the playoffs is enough for me. But if the NFL keeps a total of 20 games on the schedule as has been discussed, reducing the number of pre-season games to two from four, then I think the players will reluctantly go along as long as they are well compensated in the new CBA, and they most certainly will be well compensated for the two additional regular season game, which happen to be much more intense and demanding than the pre-season games. But overall they will be playing 20 games total, same as before but with the 2 additional games carrying much more compensation from the league. On the other had, I'll be the first to admit that I have much to learn about this issue and about the CBA and potential lock-out.
    Posted by RajonRondowski


    I've never heard anything about actually extending the total # of games including preseason.  Only adding Reg season games and reducing preseason games.  Fans don't like having to pay for 2 preseason games that are meaningless.  If the League can increase the games to 17 or 18 they can ask the networks for more money. 
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:40 PM EDT

    NFL owners are getting Greedy. They want more money. They charge a absurd amount of money for tickets. I cannot even afford to go to a game any longer. I live in the midwest, was looking for tickets on Ticket master and the Bears Patriots game was over $200 a ticket. Now they want to water down the game? More injuries, etc... Sounds like a bad idea. They have a good think going and a strike will ruin it. Wait and see. Greed always does a person/corporation in eventually.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:42 PM EDT

    I agree.  I don't like the idea either.
     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:46 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock:
    Polian is an idiot.
    Posted by IndyIove

    did you get banned again dog?    

     

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    Re: Lockout Certain? Polian Says 18-Game Season a Lock

    posted at 9/28/2010 1:48 PM EDT

    My two cents....

    Everyone yawns at the 4 game pre-season schedule AND fans are paying regular season prices to see them... ( I received $90 tics to see the Ravens and the Giants this pre-season, I was aghast at that price for a pre-season game)  so.. what is good about going to 18 games and done in such a way that players do not physically suffer?

    #1 - less pre-season cr*p.  The players already conduct so many OTAs and other off season training, it is not like they have to "re-learn" their skills. I think they'd rather bang on each other when it counts.
    #2 - Expand the roster and the cut downs can occur into the first 2 - 4 games of the regular season.  IE - 70 players by 1st game, 65 into game 2 and maintain 60 for the season, for example.  Also, larger practice squads.  If a team is REALLY that good, it will win even these early season games that count.
    #3 - In the playoffs, all division winners get byes, not just #1 & 2 seeds, and an added wild card play each other for the next round.
    #4 - (from an owners perspective) the owners have most of the risk, players DO get paid handsomely and they know the risks of playing this sport..  I do not care for crying millionaires about their "achy" bodies..  manage the millions you make in your 3 - 4 year career or more and you can be set for life!