Lockout nearing an end?

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    I don't know why the Owners would really care about a rookie salary cap.  How the money is distributed would seem only important to the players.  But the toatal amount is what I would think the Owners would care about.  Don't know why the Owners don't agree to whatever rookie cap the players want.
     
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    Because it limits the teams ability to keep core players. If they are required to pay $50MM to Sam Bradford...and he stinks, they can't get anyone in free agency.





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    [QUOTE]I don't know why the Owners would really care about a rookie salary cap.  How the money is distributed would seem only important to the players.  But the toatal amount is what I would think the Owners would care about.  Don't know why the Owners don't agree to whatever rookie cap the players want.
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    Your Wednesday labor starting lineup

    Bob Batterman, Jeff Pash, DeMaurice Smith, Kevin Mawae, Greg Aiello,AP

    We have Wednesday’s labor session starting lineup for everyone out there in a fantasy lockout league.

    The owners will have six representatives present.  (It’s usually five.)  Albert Breer of NFL.com reports that Jerry Richardson, Jerry Jones, John Mara, Robert Kraft, Clark Hunt, and Art Rooney will make up the crew.

    The players will have Domonique Foxworth among the familiar faces.

    The last two days have been spent clearing away language on some of the less contentious issues, with “a lot of the details done” according to Breer.  Meetings wrapped up between the lawyers after 7 p.m. ET.

    Now the big names just have to close the deal.  That’s all.

     
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    Brady, P. Manning, Brees: It's time for NFL deal


     

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees say "it is time" for NFL owners and players to wrap up negotiations on a deal to end the league's lockout.

    The three star quarterbacks are among 10 players who are named plaintiffs in an antitrust suit against the NFL that is pending in federal court in Minnesota.

    In a statement released to The Associated Press via the NFL Players Association on Wednesday, New England's Brady, Indianapolis' Manning and New Orleans' Brees said: "We believe the overall proposal made by the players is fair for both sides and it is time to get this deal done."

    The statement continued: "This is the time of year we as players turn our attention to the game on the field. We hope the owners feel the same way."

    Brady, Manning and Brees spoke out as a group publicly for the first time as representatives of players and owners gathered Wednesday morning at a Manhattan office building for the latest round of talks aimed at resolving the fourth-month lockout. It's the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987, and negotiations are at a critical phase.

    Deadlines are coming up next week to get training camps and the preseason started on time. While it appears that the sides have agreed on the basic elements of how to split more than $9 billion in annual revenues, among the key sticking points recently have been how to structure a new rookie salary system and what free agency will look like.

    Federally mediated negotiations to arrive at a new collective bargaining agreement broke down March 11, and the old labor contract expired. The NFLPA immediately dissolved itself, meaning players no longer are protected under labor law but instead are now allowed to take their chances under antitrust law. That day, Brady, Manning, Brees and others filed their class-action lawsuit.

    On March 12, the owners imposed a lockout on the players, a right management has to shut down a business when a CBA expires. During the lockout, there can be no communication between the teams and current NFL players; no players - including those drafted in April - can be signed; teams won't pay for players' health insurance.

    A series of court rulings followed, including one last week from an appeals court that said the lockout could continue.

    Talks resumed in May, overseen by a court-appointed mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, who is on vacation this week. Boylan ordered both sides to speak with him in Minneapolis next Tuesday, and the owners have a special meeting set for July 21 in Atlanta, where they could vote to ratify a new deal if one is reached.

    That means there's intense pressure on NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith to keep things moving in a positive direction. Disruptions to the planned preseason schedule would decrease the overall revenue pie.

    Smith was among those arriving Wednesday morning for talks, along with powerful team owners Robert Kraft of the Patriots, John Mara of the New York Giants and Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys.

     
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    Brady-The statement reads: 

    "We believe the overall proposal made by the players is fair for both sides and it is time to get this deal done. This is the time of year we as players turn our attention to the game on the field. We hope the owners feel the same way."
     
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    A deal will get done some time in the next two weeks. This is basically what a lot of people predicted : a deal around mid-July.


     
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    [QUOTE]Because it limits the teams ability to keep core players. If they are required to pay $50MM to Sam Bradford...and he stinks, they can't get anyone in free agency. In Response to Re: Lockout nearing an end? :
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    It would come out the same in a cap, The veterans would draw higher Salaries then.  None of it makes a difference in profits but the overall payroll the Owners pay and that isn't changing with a rookie cap.
     
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    The lockout is now costing the players and owners collectively about 10 million dollars a day in lost future revenues.  Holding out for another 10 days in the hopes of wangling another 100 million out of the other side is a break-even tactic, if those hopes are in fact anything more than a hallucination.  Most likely both sides will each lose 50 million for their stubbornness.  I'd put a 100 day future holdout at well above 1 billion in lost total revenues, because the rates keep going up every day. 

    Some of these guys are real bozos.  We just don't know who yet, but it might well be both sides. 
     
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         Drew Brees says both sides are on the verge of a deal: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/13/drew-brees-were-very-close-to-a-settlement/
     
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    Wednesday’s talks are expected to continue into the night


    The owners and the players reconvened on Wednesday, for the first time in months without a mediator/chaperon/babysitter.

    And yet somehow they have found a way to stay in the same room together for an entire day.

    Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that the Wednesday session is expected to continue into the night.

    The overtime session comes amid a dispute as to how close the talks are — or aren’t — to completion.  Saints quarterback Drew Brees, a member of the NFLPA* Executive Committee and one of the 10 named plaintiffs in the Brady antitrust lawsuit, told Scott Kaplan and Billy Ray Smith of XX 1090 in San Diego earlier today that a deal is close.

    We’re very close to a settlement,” Brees said. “We’re at that point in the negotiations where there’s just a few more details that need to be ironed out.”

    Other players, including Steelers safety Ryan Clark and Bengals receiver Chad Ochocinco, say it’s not close.  Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports has promised to explain it all in a new column that will be coming soon.

    Our guess is that Brees has decided to play with the owners the game that the owners have been playing with the players — creating pressure to do a deal by building expectations that a deal is coming.  With fewer and fewer remaining disagreements, someone needs to blink.  The owners think it will be the players.  The players are letting the owners know it won’t happen.

    And so once the owners realize that, the two sides can compromise on those final remaining issues.

     
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    Eight owners present for Thursday’s labor talks

    The league has 10 owners on its labor committee.  On Thursday, eight of them will participate in the negotiations.

    Albert Breer of NFL Network, whose hairdo seems to be alternating between the Michael Scott and the Jim Halpert on an hourly basis, has the list of owners who are present on Thursday.  They are:  Giants co-owner John Mara, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, Packers CEO Mark Murphy (who has been absent from the talks lately), Chargers owner Dean Spanos, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, and Steelers owner Art Rooney.

    The only owners from the labor committee who aren’t present (and who haven’t been directly involved lately) are Broncos owner Pat Bowlen and Bengals owner Mike Brown.

    For the players, Breer reports that Ravens cornerback Domonique Foxworth, Colts center Jeff Saturday, retired offensive lineman Pete Kendall, and retired receiver Sean Morey are present.

    Throw in the lawyers and the men in charge, and it’s time to get this damn thing done.

     
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    Report: Progress made on rookie pay scale

    AP

    We’ve all reached the point in the NFL lockout where we’re kind of sick of reports about progress being made and we just want to see a done deal. But that doesn’t mean we’re going to ignore the reports of progress.

    So we’ll pass along what appears to be good news from Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated, who tweets that there’s been positive movement on both sides today regarding the rookie pay issue.

    Frankly, even a small amount of positive movement today should have resulted in a meeting somewhere in the middle. As we reported on Monday,the two sides really weren’t that far apart in the first place. The differences between the owners and the players on rookie pay were about a relatively small amount of money and would affect a relatively small number of players.

    So with one week to go before the July 21 meeting at which the owners are hoping they can vote to approve a new deal, let’s hope they can wrap up the rookie pay scale today.

     
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    [QUOTE]I think they will compromise on the rookie scale. I'm thinking it will be like the NHL rookie scale with exception of 1st rounds getting 4 yrs and a RFA yr but the RFA compensation might be lighter then current (ie only 1 pick a 1st being highest instead of multiple picks) and tender offers raised.
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

         Now that a deal has been reached on a rookie wage scale, the end of the lock-out appears near:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/14/rookie-wage-scale-is-done/
     
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    Good news for retired players...

     
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    One of the recent labor-based reports from ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen touched on the elimination of two-a-day practices in a new collective bargaining agreement. 

    "One key concession made by the owners will effectively eliminate two-a-day practices during training camp as a health and safety issue that players termed critical to an agreement, the sources said. Teams will be allowed to have some helmetless and padless non-contact walk-through practices in lieu of a second training camp practice on the same day,"Mortensen writes

    While the 2011 training camp schedule figured to be altered by the lockout, one would still think this is news Bill Belichick -- who has often talked about the importance of player safety -- won't be pleased to hear. 

    Consider this comment from Belichick in the early days of last year's training camp, 
    "A big part of camp [is] going through it day by day and putting your team under stress and seeing how they react to those situations – judge their conditioning and staying power, mental and physical toughness, and durability. I think that’s an important part of getting your team ready for the 16-game regular-season schedule that we have to face." 

    Here are some quick-hits on how Belichick approached training camp in 2010: 

    1. Four of the first five days of camp featured two-a-day practices, both in full pads. 

    2. Joint practices with the Saints were held with one two-a-day session, both in full pads. 

    3. Belichick put the team through 17 straight practices (12 full pads*, 3 walkthroughs, 2 in shorts/light shoulder pads) before giving players a day off. 

    * one full-pads practice was held at a slower pace
     
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    -Improvements for retirees will be close to $1B, w/more than half of that comprising the Legacy Fund, which will benefit pre-'93 retirees .
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lockout nearing an end? : Rocky, go down to the local CC and take a class on font sizes.
    Posted by McCheaters[/QUOTE]

    What do you mean?

    You are the one that needs to go to CC... If you had, you would understand the font when copying from informative NFL articles, that is the smallest size that can be used!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lockout nearing an end? : I'll sign right up. Eliminating 2-a-days & its effect on Pats By Mike Reiss One of the recent labor-based reports from ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen touched on the elimination of two-a-day practices in a new collective bargaining agreement. "One key concession made by the owners will effectively eliminate two-a-day practices during training camp as a health and safety issue that players termed critical to an agreement, the sources said. Teams will be allowed to have some helmetless and padless non-contact walk-through practices in lieu of a second training camp practice on the same day," Mortensen writes . While the 2011 training camp schedule figured to be altered by the lockout, one would still think this is news Bill Belichick -- who has often talked about the importance of player safety -- won't be pleased to hear. Consider this comment from Belichick in the early days of last year's training camp, "A big part of camp [is] going through it day by day and putting your team under stress and seeing how they react to those situations – judge their conditioning and staying power, mental and physical toughness, and durability. I think that’s an important part of getting your team ready for the 16-game regular-season schedule that we have to face." Here are some quick-hits on how Belichick approached training camp in 2010: 1. Four of the first five days of camp featured two-a-day practices, all in full pads. 2. Joint practices with the Saints were held with one two-a-day session. Both practices were in full pads. 3. Belichick put the team through 17 straight practices (12 full pads*, 3 walkthroughs, 2 in shorts/light shoulder pads) before giving players a day off.
    Posted by McCheaters[/QUOTE]

    Don't think you can solve laziness by going to CC....

    This link was already posted.....

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lockout nearing an end? : Rocky, go down to the local CC and take a class on font sizes.
    Posted by McCheaters[/QUOTE]

    I was edumacated from that ther CC. Phont isn't taught as good as yous think
     
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    Go Patriots!!!
     
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    Jets Stink!
     
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