Losing SB 46 is NOT AN OPTION for Patriots

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         Make no mistake about it. SB 46 is not just a matter for revenge, building legacies, or winning a championship. What's at stake Sunday is whether the Patriots will continue on their wonderful run, which began in 2001. 

         Unlike the veteran group which fell short in SB 42, this Patriots' team is comprised mostly of young players, who have yet to reach their prime. A win Sunday will instill confidence, and a winning mentality amongst their core young players such as Patrick Chung, Brandon Spikes, Jerod Mayo, Brandon Deaderick, Devin McCourty, Aaron Hernandez, Gronk, Nate Solder, Sebastien Vollmer, and Stevan Ridley. It could carry the Patriots onto another championship run over the next few years...and likely will encourage BB to stick around a while longer. 

         This from Tedy Bruschi:

         Specific to Coach Belichick, I think back to that 2001 championship team and some of the young players that were there, and how it turned them into consistent championship players. If they defeat the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI, you see the potential of that happening with this group. Yes, you have veterans like Brady and Vince Wilfork leading the way, but then you think about Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Jerod Mayo, Devin McCourty … a player like Patrick Chung, is he your Lawyer Milloy/Rodney Harrison? The potential for another run is there:
    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/page/bruschibreakdown-0202/super-bowl-2012-bruschi-breakdown-patriots-vs-giants

         But, can you imagine how losing to the Giants again would impact this team? Do any of you really think that the scars from that awful SB loss four years ago have completely faded on Tom Brady, Vince Wilfolk, Wes Welker, and Logan Mankins? Since that game, the Patriots have had trouble winning playoff games...going one and done in 2009 and 2010, before this season.

         History shows that the losers of a SB don't bounce back well the following season, and usually fail to even make the play-offs. If that holds true, than a loss would point to the Patriots not winning a championship in next season, either...and leave them limping into 2013 with a 36 year old Tom Brady, trying to catch lightning in a bottle, one last time.    

         No sir. Make no mistake about it...for so many reasons...revenge, the sanity of their fan base, the BB/Tom Brady legacy, and the future of this franchise, losing SB 46 is not an option

         Get it done, boys!
     
         "If we are not victorious, let no man come back alive!" 
          General George S. Patton, Jr.        
     
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         Make no mistake about it. SB 46 is not just a matter for revenge, building legacies, or winning a championship. What's at stake Sunday is whether the Patriots will continue on their wonderful run, which began in 2001.       Unlike the veteran group which fell short in SB 42, this Patriots' team is comprised mostly of young players, who have yet to reach their prime. A win Sunday will instill confidence, and a winning mentality amongst their core young players such as Patrick Chung, Brandon Spikes, Jerod Mayo, Brandon Deaderick, Devin McCourty, Aaron Hernandez, Gronk, Nate Solder, Sebastien Vollmer, and Stevan Ridley. It could carry the Patriots onto another championship run over the next few years...and likely will encourage BB to stick around a while longer.       This from Tedy Bruschi:      Specific to Coach Belichick, I think back to that 2001 championship team and some of the young players that were there, and how it turned them into consistent championship players. If they defeat the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI, you see the potential of that happening with this group. Yes, you have veterans like Brady and Vince Wilfork leading the way, but then you think about Rob Gronkowski , Aaron Hernandez , Jerod Mayo , Devin McCourty … a player like Patrick Chung , is he your Lawyer Milloy / Rodney Harrison ? The potential for another run is there: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/page/bruschibreakdown-0202/super-bowl-2012-bruschi-breakdown-patriots-vs-giants      But, can you imagine how losing to the Giants again would impact this team? Do any of you really think that the scars from that awful SB loss four years ago have completely faded on Tom Brady, Vince Wilfolk, Wes Welker, and Logan Mankins? Since that game, the Patriots have had trouble winning playoff games...going one and done in 2009 and 2010, before this season.      History shows that the losers of a SB don't bounce back well the following season, and usually fail to even make the play-offs. If that holds true, than a loss would point to the Patriots not winning a championship in next season, either...and leave them limping into 2013 with a 36 year old Tom Brady, trying to catch lightning in a bottle, one last time.          No sir. Make no mistake about it...for so many reasons...revenge, the sanity of their fan base, the BB/Tom Brady legacy, and the future of this franchise, losing SB 46 is not an option .       Get it done, boys!        "If we are not victorious, let no man come back alive!"        General George S. Patton, Jr.        
    Posted by TexasPat

    Great post!!  I had not thought about it this way.  Gulp!!  Not good as this is not a good matchup for them and Football is really all about matchups.  
     
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    In Response to Losing SB 46 is NOT AN OPTION for Patriots : Great post!!  I had not thought about it this way.  Gulp!!  Not good as this is not a good matchup for them and Football is really all about matchups.  
    Posted by SXPTSCLTSRULE


         Don't listen to the idiot talking heads. Football is an emotional game. The Giants and the NY media have shot off their mouths repeatedly. Don't think that this has gone unnoticed by BB and the boys. 

         The Pats will win tomorrow. 
     
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    The Pats have been all business but also loose and having fun all week, they are ready for this 
     
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    Despite all the media buildup of mismatches, I think this one is pretty even. Both teams have strong points and weak points. And despite the rankings, this NE defense is a lot more solid than they were earlier in the season. The prognosticators like to dwell on the Giants five game winning streak and forget NE has ten. They know how important this game is. I believe they are focused, Brady and Belichick know the routine! I think the key component in this game is the play of the O-lines. Whichever unit can give their QB time to throw the best will emerge victorious. I think the front seven of the Patriots' D is underrated. They'll need to make Eli throw some ducks or take some sacks. If Tom has time to hit his targets he's likely to put up a 40-burger. That would be his way of shutting up all the doubters, winning a fourth ring and surpassing Montana for postseason wins. If their defense can prevent those big scoring plays to Cruz and Nicks they can win easily...as long as the O-line does their job. Mankins and Light must also be wanting redemption for the game four years ago. But I agree with the jist of your post, Tex. Winning will instill a confidence or "swagger" with these young guys that could lead to great things. A loss looks like Brady's prime days are over...at least that's how the media will spin it. They can win this game, IMO. They just need to go out and play their best game. Hopefully guys like Brady, Wilfork, and Light will get the young guys focused. Whatever happens, I just hope they get a TD for Gronk. The kid deserves it after the season he's had. Let's hope this is the start of "Dynasty Revisited"! And they can dedicate the trophy to Myra. Let's roll!
     
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    TP- your quote ending your spread pick post was/is featured as board quote on Boston.com sports page.
    Everything you say here is true. I believe the team is more than ready to rise up to the challenge.
    I don't have the words to describe how much I'm looking forward to the game tomorrow.

                                                GO PATS!
                                              MHK
     
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    Nice!


     
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    Very good point. I read this article from ESPN Boston earlier this week discussing the possibility of a Patriots dynasty if we win.


    I think he makes some very valid points, and as TP said, we have developing young talent with which to build a dynasty.
     
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    good points in general, but...

    is losing really an option for any sb participant? first timers will want to win because the chances of getting back are slim. regulars want to win for fear of a window closing. etc. who goes toa  sb game thinking that it's okay to lose?

    sb losers not making the payoffs? does that really apply to the pats under bb? they already have a track record for winning enough to make the playoffs on every year since their sb42 loss, if not for some manipulation by other teams and even without tb
     
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    You're such a f***ing troll.  Why don't you go over to the Indy site, I'm sure they'll appreciate your whiny b*tch report cards.
     
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    TP... seems you, sort of, shot yourself in your own foot with parts of this post.

    First, mentioning "losing" as an option?  What team comes into the SB with that thought in mind?  Seems only fans on this site have that attitude like yourself, which in itself, is a sense of entitlement the team needs to satisfy for their fans.

    #2 - There are only 7 players from the SB42 team and the rest are young players or players new to the team.  If anything, a loss will instill further efforts in this group to return while a win will definitely wet their appetites to return.  I do not see this team shuffling off into the sunset as you seem to think.  With a young group behind him, and at least 2 - 3 more good years in him, health willing, Brady can realistically think a return trip to the SB is a very good possibility.

    #3 - This group, regardless of the result has gone further than most here thought they would and the possibility for the future is immense.  A win here, #4 for BB and TB, and this group staying together going forward, will put the odds for ring #5 for BB and TB will be very good indeed!

    #4 - This team is FAR from being done after this year, the rebuilding is just about at the peak for another 3 - 5 year run.  Ya think??!!
     
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    Everyone here would love to see them win this SB. But as agcsbill says they are a young team that most experts and fans were not expecting to be here. Most likely they will get better filling in the areas of the team that needs improvement. As we all know BB doesn't sit waiting...

    What some have missed is the fact the BB and his staff have rebuilt this team from 4 years ago. While doing so they made the playoffs the past 3 years. Last appearance for the Gmen was 2008 SB.

    As fans we need to be prepared for the worse. Four years ago broke our hearts but we survived and we'll do it again if we have to. If they win this SB we need to savor it. If they lose life goes on... We are very fortunate to have this owner, coach, quarterback, and teams they produce. GO PATS!
     
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    Pat not one of your better posts....the  Pats went into the 2007 game thinking losing was not an option and...they lost. They were playing tight, caught up in the historical moment. That's not what we want at all this time around. We want these guys playing looser than that this time around, without feeling that historical pressure. Focus yes, pressure no. 

    Losing this game would be terrible but this may surprise you, it won't be the apocalypse either.
     
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    TP... seems you, sort of, shot yourself in your own foot with parts of this post. First, mentioning "losing" as an option?  What team comes into the SB with that thought in mind?  Seems only fans on this site have that attitude like yourself, which in itself, is a sense of entitlement the team needs to satisfy for their fans.
     
    RESPONSE: You obviously need to take a course in reading comprehension, Bill. I specifically said that "losing is not an option". What the hell does a "sense of entitlement" have to do with anything? If the Patriots lose this game, it's doubtful that they'll bounce back next year. Check the records. History tells us that. 

    #2 - There are only 7 players from the SB42 team and the rest are young players or players new to the team.  If anything, a loss will instill further efforts in this group to return while a win will definitely wet their appetites to return.  I do not see this team shuffling off into the sunset as you seem to think.  With a young group behind him, and at least 2 - 3 more good years in him, health willing, Brady can realistically think a return trip to the SB is a very good possibility.
     
    RESPONSE: Fantasize all you like. The Pats need to win this game, in order to carry on their great run.

    #3 - This group, regardless of the result has gone further than most here thought they would and the possibility for the future is immense.  A win here, #4 for BB and TB, and this group staying together going forward, will put the odds for ring #5 for BB and TB will be very good indeed!
     
    RESPONSE: For all that to become reality, the Pats need to win this game. Sounds to me like you're expecting the Pats to lose.

    #4 - This team is FAR from being done after this year, the rebuilding is just about at the peak for another 3 - 5 year run.  Ya think??!!

    RESPONSE: With a win tomorrow, I completely agree that the future looks bright. Otherwise...
    Posted by agcsbill

     
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    Pat not one of your better posts....the  Pats went into the 2007 game thinking losing was not an option and...they lost.
     
    RESPONSE: I completely disagree. The Pats went into the game expecting a coronation...not a football game. They were arrogant, overconfident...and got beat.

    They were playing tight, caught up in the historical moment.
     
    RESPONSE: They played their worst game of that season. Isn't saying that they "played tight" a nice way of saying they choked? 

    That's not what we want at all this time around. We want these guys playing looser than that this time around, without feeling that historical pressure. Focus yes, pressure no.  Losing this game would be terrible but this may surprise you, it won't be the apocalypse either.

    RESPONSE: It depends what your idea of an "apocalypse" is. A loss, and the Patriots will still be a decent team. But, they won't again seriously challenge for a title in the Brady era. They need to win this game. No excuses. 
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    In Response to Losing SB 46 is NOT AN OPTION for Patriots : No TP losing is a option and a reality, a 50/50 proposition same as for the Giants
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         So now, after all your obnoxious posts over the past two weeks, spouting off how the Giants are going to bury the Pats...you're saying that you see this game as a toss-up?

         Are you getting a wee bit apprehensive, my friend?
     
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    Watch out Pat the little internet tough guy will go crying to the mods if you hurt his widdle feelings.
     
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    good points in general, but... is losing really an option for any sb participant? first timers will want to win because the chances of getting back are slim. regulars want to win for fear of a window closing. etc. who goes toa  sb game thinking that it's okay to lose?
     
    RESPONSE: What makes this more of a must win is the fact Tom Brady is 34 years old, the Pats have a ton of young players, and the fact that the opponent is the Giants. The Pats owe them one...big time. This is a grand chance for the Pats to wash away the SB 42 disaster. After that loss, the Pats failed to make the play-offs in 2008, and were one and done in 2009 and 2010. A loss Sunday likely would put the Pats into another tailspin, that will last throughout Tom Brady's remaining years.

    sb losers not making the payoffs? does that really apply to the pats under bb?
     
    RESPONSE: Yes. The Patriots didn't make the play-offs in 2008...the injury to Tom Brady notwithstanding. Brady's confidence in playoff games isn't what it once was, as he played poorly against the Ravens in 2009, against the Jets in 2010, and against the Ravens in 2011. Sunday is a chance for Tom to get his mojo back as the premiere big game QB. 

    they already have a track record for winning enough to make the playoffs on every year since their sb42 loss, if not for some manipulation by other teams and even without tb

    RESPONSE: The regular season is one thing...the play-offs are another. That catastrophic SB 42 loss was the beginning of a three game playoff losing streak...and four frustrating years of falling short of the ultimate goal. Winning tomorrow will set this team back on track for another championship run. 
    Posted by seattlepat70

     
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    "What's at stake Sunday is whether the Patriots will continue on their wonderful run, which began in 2001."

    I don't buy this premise.  They are well positioned to be contenders for a championship over the next few years.
    As far as this year is concerned, they overcame the "One and Done" label (Broncos game).  Then they overcame the "Have not beaten a winning team" label (Ravens game).
    It has been and continues to be a wonderful run.
     
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    In Response to Re: Losing SB 46 is NOT AN OPTION for Patriots : ur pretty tough over n anonymous screen too pal...wonder if ur so bad*** in person? then again i've wasted anuff time being civil to trash like u. goodbye
    Posted by JintsFan


         Don't appreciate you constantly rubbing it in the way you have with the Brady quote. I'll have more to say about it, tomorrow. Be here. Aloha!  
     
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