he is a free agent OLB from the browns who the browns are unlikely to resign due to their switching back to the 4-3 defense from mangini's 3-4. he had 8 sacks in 2009 and is 6'4" 275 # and is only 28. he could be a good relatively cheap signing to help the OLB and he already knows the 3-4 defense and mangini's D was very close to what we run here in NE.
the FA RB i really like is Brian leonard of the bengals. a good hard hitting RB who is harder to take down. also Michael Bush, Raiders is another great option
WR FA i like is floyd (SD) and if cincy cuts 85 i would sign him.
OG Harvey Dahl, Falcons
DB Jonathan Jospeph, Bengals
matt roth?
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matt roth?
posted at 2/17/2011 9:37 PM EST
- natesubs
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Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/17/2011 9:40 PM EST
- leatherhelmet
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Man, I thought we were bringing in David Lee Roth.Between him and Bon Jovi,the Pats would have a rocking locker room......... -
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Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 7:21 AM EST
- fishers5
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Ok...lets use our heads..you know what you have in Ninkovich and tbc..average at best subs...If your going to compete in the playoffs defensively..these players need to be replaced with playmakers on the outside...between the draft and when you can evaluate what you drafted..(after a CBA is finished) sign a free agent (maybe) or 2 if BB wants to get back to the SB.. have a more aggressive Defense and lets the chips fall... Going to be a fun year in 2011....truth be told i am rooting for D fletcher to show just a little improvement and be that guy....I may be wrong but i see a player..... -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 8:06 AM EST
- siestafiesta
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"NE has solid depth guys already in ninkovich and bantacain, they need a starter across from cunningham who can produce sacks. roth isn't that guy."
Even if he doesn't project as a great starter, Roth would be worth a look if he's even marginally better than Ninc or especially Banta-Cain, who really regressed and will probably get cut because of his contract -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 9:47 AM EST
- Patriots1970
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If Roth can give as much as TBC for a cheaper price and is younger - than pull the trigger and sign him. -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 9:59 AM EST
- Homecheese
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I agree, get rid of Tully and give him a look but he's not the answer to the pass rush problems. They need to use a top pick on a guy who can get after the QB consistently. He has ideal size and would provide depth. I don't know too much about him but can he play special teams too? I was looking at his stats and couldn't see the 8 sacks he got in 2009. It seems he played for both miami and cleveland that year and only listed 4 sacks in 10 total games played between the two. Was there an additional team he played on that year? -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 10:11 AM EST
- PatsEng
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Nate not sure where you got 8 sacks in a season. He's never had more then 5 in a single season in 08'
To me he's another Nin or TBC or Moore. He's a good rotational or back-up player but not a starter. Not really even a pass rushing threat either. I'd bring him in as competition between TBC, Moore, and Nin and keep 2 of them. But I don't think he'd be considered a solution to the pass rushing issue.
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Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 11:37 AM EST
- natesubs
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/matt-roth/careerstats/299941 yeah but it is the only site that has him at 8 must be a mistake by fox i guess. sorry about that. i thought it was a reputable site. -
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posted at 2/18/2011 11:39 AM EST
- natesubs
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that is pretty much what i was thinking, cutting TBC and bringing in roth thus freeing up cap space for mankins and light and possibly a top notch FA. -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 1:40 PM EST
- cwiegmann24
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I am an Iowa Hawkeyes fan, and Matt Roth went to Iowa. He is a physical player, but not very intelligent. I would doubt that he could understand and execute the complex defenses that Belichick uses. Perhaps he has some knowledge from being in Cleveland with Mangini, but I would be surprised if they brought him in. Loved watching him play for the Hawks, but never wanted the Patriots to pick him. I was kinda glad when he was drafted by the Dolphins. -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 4:22 PM EST
- JayShizzle45
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I believe what Roth may do better than TBC would balance out with the fact that he prolly doenst play as well standing up as the others...so I would say no to Roth, but I like the other guys you mentioned except for J.J. from Cincy, cuz Im pretty sure he locked up with an extension 2 years ago.... -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 4:40 PM EST
- Bspikes55
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Asher Roth is my fav rapper
But yeah cut tbc and keep amth roth he plays hard and has great size to set the edge I think he could be a good rotational player. -
Re: matt roth?
posted at 2/18/2011 5:06 PM EST
- natesubs
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In Response to Re: matt roth?:I dont see Roth being any better then the Rob Nincovich type players who already have on the team. And I didnt know Jonathan Joseph was a FA but if he is sign his a ss up! he is a great DB
Posted by MVPkilla4life
yeah he is a FA http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3693/player?r=1 although there is talk about him being tagged by the bengals.