Re: Mike Reiss on Brady's decline
posted at 10/22/2013 3:34 PM EDT
In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:
In response to kelvana33's comment:
Gone: Welker,Hernandez,Woodhead,Gronkowski for 6 weeks and Vareen for season:
In: Thompkins, Dobson and Collie coming off injury.
What quarterbacks numbers/performance would not suffer under these circumstances?
That makes no sense considering evertyhing was fine vs Atlanta on the road in a big game or vs NOs at home, when they ran the ball consistently through 4 qtrs.
VS Cincy and the Jets, they peeled back from it in the second half with leads and Brady was bad.
Forget the names on the jersey. It's the concepts and ALWAYS WILL BE here in this system.
Brady won SBs with Brown, Patten, Givens, Branch. None of these guys were on anyone's fantasy teams from 2001-2004.
2007, our moron contingent in this fanbase thinks Brady has to have fantasy superstars to score more than 13 or 17 points.
You could not be more wrong.
How is a HOF QB better with weaker talent, worse with better talent and then WORSE with new talent that is actually a lot better than people realize if used correctly.
Gronk comes back and is targeted 17 times and Dobson, Edelman or Thompkins aren't wide open somewhere?
Or, were they?
Was Brady staring down Gronk????? Hmmm.
Your right. Dobson, Thompkins and Collie are much better than Troy Brown, Branch,Givens and Patten. I think you underestimate how good that group of receivers was. Nothing flashy, just got the job done. And they werent fantasy stars because, because Brady was able to spread the ball around so much since they consistently as a group got open and held onto the ball. Also had Kevin Faulk out of the backfield.
You label people as Brady apologists. Fine, but your a Brady hater. But the argument just goes against you. In come Welker and Moss. All receivers listed had all their best years with Brady throwing to them.