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MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY?

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    To nobody in particular... Neither Delmas, Chung, Merriweather or Byrd are legit strong safeties, all of them are about 200 pounds and range from 5'10" to 6 feet tall.  Real deal strong safeties, ranging from 6'-6'2"/210-220pounds with range that can man up tightends don't come along often and the current trend is to stock up on hard hitting, play making free safties... at least that's what the PAT's are doing. That being said it's way too early to write off Chung, especially since he is now getting reps and making plays.  Not every player is going to progress as quickly but I know before their first season is up is way too soon to write somebody off...  Chung is making strides and I still think he will become a solid player.
    Posted by wozzy



    The exception to your statement though wozzy is bob sanders, of course at 5'8. he can play both ss  and come down in the box and make great tackles behind the line of scrimmage or he can switch it up and play the FS spot and roam the field and make big plays there. not all great players look alike, some are exceptions to the rule. 
     
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    Re: MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY?

    I wonder how many of you thought Merriweather was a bust?

     
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    Butler and Chung have looked great for rookies in a very complex defense.

    In Response to Re: MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY? : Kindly disregard the "U R n iDioT" poster. That is his schtick. He comes on here, and calls someone an idiot once a day or so. I am a firm believer in the conduct of civil society --  so he is just out.
    Posted by zbellino


    Here, here - two great posts by zbellino!!!
     
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    Re: MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY?

    They absolutley picked the wrong safety. Half the season is over and that is pretty much enough reflect what both safeties will do for the rest of their careers.

     
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    Re: MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY?

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    In Response to Re: MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY? : The exception to your statement though wozzy is bob sanders, of course at 5'8. he can play both ss  and come down in the box and make great tackles behind the line of scrimmage or he can switch it up and play the FS spot and roam the field and make big plays there. not all great players look alike, some are exceptions to the rule. 
    Posted by R3S1N20


    I don't dispute that these smaller free safeties playing the SS position can do it effectively, Polamalu and Sanders are some of the best defenders in the league regardless of position...  Meriweather is playing at that level now as well.

    The difference in my eyes is a guy who can man up a tightend and cover him as an equal, these smaller guys cover a tightend, hope to slap the ball away but more often than not the tightend catches the ball and the smaller safety hangs on for dear life, tangling up his legs in the hopes of taking him down.

    Bigger strong safeties are harder to find so you don't see them often nowadays but they can nuetralize tightends leaving the linebackers free to make plays closer to the line of scrimmage.  With Meriweather, McGowan, Sanders and Chung we have an abundance of riches and I like the use of multiple sets.  Bill B was always a defensive backs coach first so I can see why he likes a good safety regardless of size.  I know it's nitpicking, not every team can have every type of player...  I just enjoy watching a linebacker sized safety knock the stuffing out of a blowhard like T.O. on a crossing route.  I guess I miss Rodney...
     
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    Re: MISTAKE? PATS DRAFTED WRONG OREGON SAFETY?

    like say a guy like adrian wilson of the cardinals, the guy is huge he could play linebacker later on in his career if he slows down alot.. i get what ur saying bigger safties can do more in covering TE 1 on 1. but guys like adrian wilson are so incredibly hard to find. you have to take the ed reed and bob sanders type plays and hope they can do enough to cover TE's. but in the case of byrd and chung,  they play two different positions and cannot really be compared in that way, also considering we dont need chung to start its unfair to compair a starter and a 2nd stringer, No?????
     
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       With 2 more picks today Buffalo Bills starting rookie safety Jairus Byrd brought his league leading interception total to 7 ... tying a long standing NFL record with 3 consecutive games with at least 2 INT's .  Byrd was also the second Oregon Duck D-Back taken in the draft ( Pats took Patrick Chung #34 ) .    It's true his College position was Cornerback -not safety and it's certainly too early to tell exactly what Chung is going to become...but one thing is for certain : with 7 picks under his belt in only 4 starts , Jairus Byrd is a player .  Note : Pats actually passed on Byrd a number of times in the second round, taking Brace at #41 and Butler at #42 before Byrd was snapped up by the Bills at #43 overall .  Oh well...hindsight is 20/20...congrats to the much maligned Dick Jauron on what looks to be an outstanding pick.
    Posted by CapnFoxboro


    Since when do 6 games tell how a career is going to go?
     
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