More Proof That Peyton Is Overrated
posted at 1/26/2009 10:49 AM EST
[Quote]Hi folks - "m" (toilet paper's ridiculously creative moniker of me just to show that he too can come up with something different in response) here -
RESPONSE: Welcome back Dogg, a/k/a "m"!! Hey...I thought that you were through with our little squabble?? In any event, glad to have you back, my friend!!
I've been waiting for this exact post from Toilet Paper, because I knew it would come.
RESPONSE: How clairvoyant of you. So...are you telling us that the Colts were right in placing the blame for their choke in San Diego on DC Ron Meeks and his defense? You're actually taking the position that the Indy defense didn't do its' job, even though it held the San Diego offense to just 17 points in regulation?
Once again Typical Pundit has taken the position of another and written as if it is his own opinion. Truth is Too Phoggy really doesn't know how to develop an opinion of his own as frequently demonstrated.
RESPONSE: "Too Phoggy??" You can't be serious??!! Dogg...you are a "funny" guy...LOL!!!
Anyway, forget about that - I knew this would come because Truth Poison likes to use Bob Kravitz as the voice of everyone in Indy but me.
RESPONSE: No...lets not forget quite yet. I've had the opinion that Peyton Manning is an overrated choke artist for the past 6 years. Bob Kravitz was a big-time Manning apologist til this most recent choke. Now, he finally sees things my way. Doesn't it strengthen ones' position when one finds articles by professional sports writers to back it up...especially a guy like Kravitz, whose been a big-time Indy homer for years?
Are you claiming that your opinion is more valid than that of Mr. Kravitz? But, hes' a professional!! In previous posts, you've criticized me for challenging the opinion of a professional pundit. Now, you're doing that very thing...once again showing you to be a hypocrite.
Kravitz makes many fine argueable points in the article which some of you, like Tickles Peyton, devoured like an economy sized can of Alpo.
RESPONSE: There you go again discussing your sexual fantasies here. A little decorum on our forum, if you please.
Too lost in the delicious feast of a local columnist (whose job it is to stir the pot)
RESPONSE: Bob Kravitz has covered the Colts for years at the Indy Star. He is their most respected columnist. Where were you when Kravitz was saying for years that Peyton Manning was "Mr. Wonderful"...the best thing sinse sliced bread?
Pot stirring occurs with the Boston media, where hacks like Ron Borges and John Tomase reside. But in Indy, the Colts have gotten a free ride...until recently. I guess that even Colts fans tire of seeing their team choke, and listening to all the excuses;
e bit of double talk. While laying all of the blame for the colts failures on the offense, Terrible Punchline's
RESPONSE: "Terrible Punchline??" How lame...LOL!!!
hero, Kravitz said this:
"The postseason problems around here have centered on the offense and not the defense. Could the defense be better? Absolutely. It would help Manning and his guys immensely if they could get more possessions every game and not be forced to be so ridiculously efficient with just eight or nine possessions every game."
RESPONSE: Here I tend to disagree with Bob. The Colts' offense was far from "ridiculously efficient" all season. Were they "ridiculously efficient" in Indy's lucky wins against Minnesota, in Houston, in Pittsburgh, against the Patriots, or in Cleveland? NO!!! The Colts' defense won those games...as the Manning led offense struggled.
No matter how you twist or turn it, the fact remains that the "high powered and efficient" Indy offense couldn't gain two yards with the game on the line.
Hey Dogg, a/k/a "m", did you bother to read these quotes?:
"If you think about the eight playoff losses during the Peyton Manning era, how many of them could squarely be dropped on the shoulders of the defense? (And don't tell me the San Diego loss. They make 2 stinking yards on third down, and it's ballgame.) For most of Meeks' tenure, his defenses were in the top 11 in virtually every defensive category, which isn't too bad for a team that's built around Manning and its offense.
"In the eight playoff losses during the Manning era, the Colts have averaged a measly 13.6 points per game. All of those losses came with (OC Tom) Moore at the helm. That's an atrocious number given the cash the Colts have invested in their quarterback and their offense".
Now I realize that facts disturb you, but WOW!! 13.6 points per game!! Wouldn't you agree that thats' an example of ridiculous offensive efficiency??!!!
Depending on your perspective, it is either irresponsible or par for the course for a columnist, whose very livlihood depends on his use of words, to make an arguement laying blame for the colts failures at the feet of the offense while in the same column stating that they are FORCED TO BE SO RIDICULOUSLY EFFICIENT.
RESPONSE: Nice try at cut and pasting, son...but no cigar. If you go back and re-read the paragraph you cited, Kravitz says that "could the defense be better...absolutely"...(and if they were better), Manning (would) get more possessions every game, and not be forced to be so efficient. Thats' true of every offense. In years past, that might have been true...but not this year.
Ridiculous, Too Phoggy, is defined as ABSURD or PREPOSTEROUS. Please let me know if you need definitions for those words too, my double-speak friend.
RESPONSE: I hear that not only do they provide definitions in the Indy schools, but pictures as well. "Too Phoggy??" Hell, you're Too Phony
Please, oh clown, keep right on posting. In the meantime, why don't you go read "The Manning Meter"...LOL!!