Moss / Mankins connection

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    Mankins came back EARLY!  Nobody knows why...maybe the Moss interview did strike a nerve in him? 
     
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    @Lazurus:  ...... or it was a ridiculous notion based on trying to climb into ones mind and calling it a legitimate reason.

    Mankins has no intention of  being a "golly gee, shucks Wally" Patriot in 2011.  Not my words, his (I believe he used the word "ever" too).  All the wishing in the world to have every player be Leave It To Beaver- happy in Patriotland is laundry talk.

    SIMPLE: Business decision based on the new CBA that won't grandfather these players in. Get the year, become an unrestricted FA. END OF STORY.  The drop dead dates were just that!! nothing more.  They weren't dates in which the players were to arrive. HANG connected dots that don't exist. Happenstance can make for compelling ideas..

    All these imaginative yet flawed rationales regarding when he showed up is immaterial and ultimately, as accurate as a Stephen Hawking alien theory. Unprovable based on what little knowledge we have.  Its a cute story, but in the end its just a cute story.



     
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    Trade his Azz 4 a 7th round pick, we don't need him.
     
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    Please Mr. Kraft bring Randy back...............................
     
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    Mankins owns his farm. He doesn't need money. I know he had some issues with Kraft but you an I will never know what exactly happened. I think the type of guy he is *cowboy/rancher* respect matters more then money. I also think that the contract dispute was mis-handled by his agent. All partys have wrong in this. In his whole career Mankins hasn't said anything. All I heard him say that he was promised contract negotiations early this year. Then he called Kraft out.  I hope they settle things. I like the guy and want him on the line with Vollmer.
     
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    [QUOTE]Nothing clever at all, just pointing out the ridiculous with the ridiculous.  Call it intelligent sarcasm.  I don't expect you to understand. You project your love for the New England Patriots onto the players themselves. Your fandom is so blinding, you will make irrational comments with the utmost sincerity. What becomes lost is the truth. TRUTH: Players aren't loyal to the laundry.  They are loyal to the money, peer admiration, and organizational respect.  This amazing psychological connection based on a timeline and your fandom, creates a true disassociation from the reality of what actually exists.  You have nothing to refute your ascertion and all the fandom surrounding you wanting the same thing as you: a Patriots Utopia. In conclusion, my comments about aliens was my way of showing you how ridiculous an arguement can sound based on some dot-connections of events.  Aliens could have seen those movies while in space (assuming you believe that they exist and they have superior technology) and thought twice about attacking such a class planet like Earth.  We have had a dynasty in the Solar System for a while. We're small and plucky like Woodhead but no one spins around the sun with more consistency than Earth!!  If you haven't seen it by now, you never will. 
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    Was Brady loyal to the money when he took less than he could of gotten earlier in his career so that they'd have more to spend on other players?  

     
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    People don't choose their jobs based only on money, and people don't find job satisfaction through just money.   I can assure you that players want to play, they want to win and they want to be respected by their teammates and peers for how they play.  BB once said (and I agree) that you can talk about money and bonus' and all that stuff but the worst thing you can do to a player is take him off the field.

    I don't think the choice to sit out was an easy decision for Mankins, and probably one that he struggled with.  Even if you think he hates BB, and Kraft and doesn't care one bit about the Patriots (which I doubt is true), he still has loyalty to his teammates and wants to show how good he is at his job.  People are just not so cold and calculating as some of you say.  Even a guy working at McDonalds takes pride in a job well done and would feel pride if his franchise was doing well because of his contributions.

    I don't know what made Mankins come back 3 weeks early, but it's certainly not far fetched to say he missed football, his teammates, or that it just took a small nudge (possibly from a Moss comment) to feel that he had made his point and he wanted to play.
     
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    "Mankins has no intention of  being a "golly gee, shucks Wally" Patriot in 2011.  Not my words, his (I believe he used the word "ever" too).  All the wishing in the world to have every player be Leave It To Beaver- happy in Patriotland is laundry talk.

    SIMPLE: Business decision based on the new CBA that won't grandfather these players in. Get the year, become an unrestricted FA. END OF STORY.  The drop dead dates were just that!! nothing more.  They weren't dates in which the players were to arrive. HANG connected dots that don't exist. Happenstance can make for compelling ideas
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    SouthShore, although ya know I'm personally diggin' your metaphors & similes to express your point ('cause I roll like that), I don't get the rationale behind your thesis...  A#1 Mankins is not sentimental, this is merely nothing over & above a business move, in order to become an UFA, show off his skills, then BOOK...  Look, I understand, the argument of him showing up in order to get into game shape, but that only takes me part of the way.  WHY, then-IF this is merely an unsentiemntal "business move" by someone that was so direly insulted & slighted by this franchise, WHY show up early...  "GameShape" & future money only takes me part of the way, but teams have short memories, Mankins TILL would be the coveted grand prize of free agent lineman,and make serious loot, next year, YES-Even IF he didn't even play 1 single snap this entire year...  I just don't understand WHY it is sooo utterly difficult for you to even fathom 1 single notion, that maybe (just maybe?), 1 second of 1 idea crawled into Mankins head for a fraction of a moment after seein' Randy Moss released, Moss's praise & love for NE & it's successes & attitudes, & this idea just maybe (just maybe?) might have wandered into Mankins own brain (coupled W/ very frugal NE offering him top 3 OG $), as Mankins subsequently reported mere hours after Randy Moss's media circus, where Moss said what he did.  YOU say, It's "fan bias", yet you seem ENTIRELY swayed the other way due to your own allegiances...  BTW, appreciate the props on the James Harrison thread man..
     
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