much to the chagrin of Rusty, another interesting take from NEPD

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    I saw this too.  Overall, I pretty much agree.  I would love to see Hawkins stick, but if Harrison is looking decent in camp then I think you have to go with the heighter upside in the rookie.  Also, I have some doubts as to whether Moe would clear waivers to make the PS, but I guess he could.  After all, teams already passed on a chance to draft him.  If Edelman's foot injury continues to be a problem then he could start on the PUP list with either Moe or Hawkins taking his spot.  This will be a great battle to watch in camp and preseason.

     
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    I agree that it is kind of hard to pencil Slater in and cut a guy who could produce as a WR (like Jones, as you mentioned).  I also agree that Cole, TWilshon, Ebner, etc could help fill Slater's ST role if he were gone.  Slater is one of the best at what he does, though, and clearly on of BB's favorite guys on this team.  I would be shocked if he didn't make the cut.  I do wish that he could contribute a little more as a WR, but I think he needs to be on this team due to his ST skills/leadership.  Like I said, the WR position will be very competitive this offseaon, which is a great thing.  I think that Amendola, Edleman, Dobson, Boyce, Slater, Jones, Hawkins, Moe, Harrison, and yes even Jenkins all have a realistic to make the final 53.  Should be fun.

     
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    I can pretty much seeing it happening this way with either Moe or Harrison attempted to be stashed on the PS. Whoever shows the most of the 2 most likely will get the spot.

    Jones was no guarantee with his feeler contract and unless he flashes something great his injury history gives concern over the younger players. 

    Jenkins was nice because of size but with Dobson and Harrison that size doesn't give him the same advantage. Because of Jenkins limited upside it will be hard for him to carve out a spot if Harrison and Dobson show flashes

    Hawkins I never really thought he'd make the team. The kid just hasn't really shown anything special in the last 5 years and I don't see him having a very high ceiling.

    Truthfully to me, if the above happens, this is kind of scary. The only 2 vets on the team have missed more games then played over the last 2 years combined (not including Slater because to me he's ST first and WR second, kind of like how Edelman is a WR first and a DB second). Then you have 3 rooks. The leaves some pretty major unknowns and if's imo

     
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    Not sure I catch the point of the post, but I think the Pats have brought in a bunch of vets, draft picks and UDFAs with the intention of hitting on a few players that will be contributors.  The Pats are throwing as much stuff at the wall as possible to see what sticks.  Who can say what the roster will look like, none of these guys have even put on pads yet.  I don't care who makes it, as long as they can diversify the position at slot and outside.   

     
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    Obviously the village b00b's spin that Welker was a security blanket for Brady so BB got rid of him is simply his usual goofy and skewed take on things that lacks any substance whatsoever.

     

    They got a younger more versatile guy for about the same money that has not dropped crucial balls at crucial times in the post-season. It has nothing to do with Brady over relying on Welker as the imbecile claims.

     
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    I really see 7 wr's making the roster. of which 7 i have no clue who, but just to take a guess at it i would say 1. amendola, 2. dobson, 3.boyce, 4. harrison, 5. jones, 6.moe, 7. slater i dont think we need 5 rb's on the roster and please dont tell me that washington isnt a running back because he's ran against the patriots for alot of yards before with the jets. also i think if gronk isnt fully healthy the 4 wr set may be used a little bit more than normal making it a need for 2 more wr's. excluding slater.

     
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    I see at least one of Boyce, Harrison or Jones being redshirted with some sort of mystery injury, Moe to the PS. If one of the above is cut it would be Harrison, whose best attribute seems to be that he's tall. That's about as overrated an attribute as a receiver can have if you ask me. I can't see Jones being cut to keep him, unless he's hurt.

    So, my guess is: Amendola, Dobson, Jenkins, Edelman, Boyce and Slater. Jones on IR, Harrison cut and Moe to the PS (or grabbed by someone else).

    Maybe Jones makes it over Jenkins.

     

     
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    Re: much to the chagrin of Rusty, another interesting take from NEPD

    In response to BabeParilli's comment:

    Obviously the village b00b's spin that Welker was a security blanket for Brady so BB got rid of him is simply his usual goofy and skewed take on things that lacks any substance whatsoever.

     

    They got a younger more versatile guy for about the same money that has not dropped crucial balls at crucial times in the post-season. It has nothing to do with Brady over relying on Welker as the imbecile claims.




    Well I agree with half of your post!  But then you go on and ruin it by making even a more goofy statement!

     
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    Really the only thing that is even remotely original about this take is the argument for the Rutgers WR to make the roster.  Frankly I don't think it's a great argument.  I'd be surprised if 3 out of our 5 WR (Slater is just a special teamer) are rookies and if a 3rd rook did make it I would bet on Moe before the Rutgers kid.  I don't think either makes the team this year unless Boyce is more injured than we think.

     
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    I saw this too.  Overall, I pretty much agree.  I would love to see Hawkins stick, but if Harrison is looking decent in camp then I think you have to go with the heighter upside in the rookie.  Also, I have some doubts as to whether Moe would clear waivers to make the PS, but I guess he could.  After all, teams already passed on a chance to draft him.  If Edelman's foot injury continues to be a problem then he could start on the PUP list with either Moe or Hawkins taking his spot.  This will be a great battle to watch in camp and preseason.




    I expect at least one WR on the pup list. COuld be edleman. THis allows a player not only to get truly healthy, it allows the Pats to see if anyone gets hurt and ends up on IR and so without having to cut talent that they dont want to they can keep more.

     

     
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    May I ask why this is "an interesting" take?  

     




    3 rookie WR's making the team? free agent signings you were "giddy" about, Jones, Jenkins and Hawkins not making the team?

     

    no one is saying that this guy Jones take on the situation is 100% accurate, but if Gronk ends up on PUP for 8 games and Hern gets hurt like he usually does, Ridley better gear up for 1800 yards 



    Stop underestimating Vereen.

     
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    I saw this too.  Overall, I pretty much agree.  I would love to see Hawkins stick, but if Harrison is looking decent in camp then I think you have to go with the heighter upside in the rookie.  Also, I have some doubts as to whether Moe would clear waivers to make the PS, but I guess he could.  After all, teams already passed on a chance to draft him.  If Edelman's foot injury continues to be a problem then he could start on the PUP list with either Moe or Hawkins taking his spot.  This will be a great battle to watch in camp and preseason.

     




    I expect at least one WR on the pup list. COuld be edleman. THis allows a player not only to get truly healthy, it allows the Pats to see if anyone gets hurt and ends up on IR and so without having to cut talent that they dont want to they can keep more.

     

     




    ExCACTLY and I expect BIG things from Vareen as well. Its what made Woody expendable.

     
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    Re: much to the chagrin of Rusty, another interesting take from NEPD

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    I see at least one of Boyce, Harrison or Jones being redshirted with some sort of mystery injury, Moe to the PS. If one of the above is cut it would be Harrison, whose best attribute seems to be that he's tall. That's about as overrated an attribute as a receiver can have if you ask me. I can't see Jones being cut to keep him, unless he's hurt.

    So, my guess is: Amendola, Dobson, Jenkins, Edelman, Boyce and Slater. Jones on IR, Harrison cut and Moe to the PS (or grabbed by someone else).

    Maybe Jones makes it over Jenkins.

     

     



    I dunno...tall with strong hands and 4.46 speed ain't half bad. Don't have the slightest clue whether he'll be able to get separation, that's remains to be seen. But he's got other physical tools.

     

     
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    Re: much to the chagrin of Rusty, another interesting take from NEPD

    So it's a unanimous "maybe" on a bunch of stuff....

    Waaaaaaay to early to be handing out pink-slips...

     
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