***My Post-Combine Draft Board***

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    ***My Post-Combine Draft Board***

    These aren't the Top 60 players in the draft, but instead are the 60 players that I think make the most sense for NE and could be available in the range of their slotted draft picks.  This list remains fluid and can/will change as more info/tape becomes avaialble.

    Feedback is welcome:

     

    Rd 1 (6):

     S- Calvin Pryor

    DE/OLB- Kony Ealy

    DT- Stephon Tuitt

    DT- Aaron Donald

    DT- Ra'shede Hageman

    WR- Brandin Cooks

     

    Rd 1-2 (6):

     CB- Bradley Roby

    CB/S- Kyle Fuller

    DE/OLB- Marcus Smith

    OLB- Kyle Van Noy

    TE- Troy Niklas

    TE- Jace Amaro

     

    Rd 2 (8):

    DT- DaQuan Jones

    CB/S- Lamarcus Joyner

    DE/OLB- Trent Murphy

    DT- Kelcy Quarles

     LB- Telvin Smith

     OG- Xavier Su’a-Filo

     ILB- Shayne Skov

     DE/OLB- Trevor Reilly

     

    Rd 2-3 (8):

     OT/OG- Joel Bitonio

     S- Deone Bucannon

     C/OG- Weston Richburg

     DT- Ego Ferguson

    TE- CJ Fiedorowicz

     QB- AJ McCarron

     ILB- Yawin Smallwood

     CB- EJ Gaines

     

    Rd 3 (10):

    WR- Cody Latimer

     CB- Stanley Jean Baptiste

     WR- Bruce Ellington

     WR- Jared Abbrederis

     RB- Devonte Freeman

     ILB- Chris Borland

     OG- Anthony Steen

    TE- Arthur Lynch

    DT- Brent Urban

    LB- Adrian Hubbard

     

    Rd 4-7 (22):

    DE/DT- Ed Stinson

     S- Antone Exum

    DE/OLB- Will Clarke

    DT- Justin Ellis

    OG- Chris Watt

    QB- Aaron Murray

    C/OG- Bryan Stork

    DT- Bruce Gaston

    S- Vinnie Sunseri

    DE/OLB- Cassius Marsh

     QB- Bryn Renner

    WR- TJ Jones

    WR- Michael Campanaro

    CB- Dexter McDougle

    S- Jason Hendricks

    TE- Rob Blanchflower

    DT- Ryan Carrethers

    S- Shamiel Gary

    DT- Beau Allen

    RB- Alfred Blue

    TE/HB/FB- Trey Millard

     

    TE/HB- Gator Hoskins

     
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    I get your board completely as you are dealing with only guys who could possibly be in position for the Patriots when they are selecting. Because we know all the guys who won't be available in round one. I agree the #1 guy on their board should be Pryor, rarely am I shocked by film, but if Rodney Harrison Jr. is available they will have to pass on TE's and DE's in round 1.

    As for guy number two, I put Hageman in that spot and after watching the combine I don't have any TE's who should be available to the Patriots at that 29 pick as a good value. Ebron won't be there, and though everyone else raves about his potential, I'm a little sceptical. Unlike everyone else on this board I like Colt Lyerla , but I have him as a 3-4 round pick. I was not there to hear his side of the story, and unlike everyone else here, I know there are two sides to every story. Like I learned many years ago it's not the telling of the story, but usually the person who tells their side first who wins the story award.

     
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    Looks good, MB.  I noticed that you didn't include Amaro or ASJ.  I know you aren't as high on ASJ as I am, but do you not think they are good fits for NE, or do you not think they will be there?  I really like Niklas, too, but I think 29 would be too early to take him, and I don't think he will be there at 62.  Mid-2nd is the range where I believe he should be drafted.  We would either have to trade back from 29, up from 62, or acquire a mid 2nd somehow.  Also, don't sleep on Xavier Su'a-Filo to go in the late first.  Guy is a flat out nasty Guard, and maybe the most NFL ready OL prospect in this class.  That is a pick that BB would make at 29 that would have most peole cussing, but I think it would be a solid move.  By the way, I love Pryor, too, but I'm not as optimistic that he will last past 20, let alone 29.  Guy's stock is on the rise, and rightfully so.

     
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    Ive been reading some reports that Timmy Jernigan could fall in the draft. Don't think he will make it to the Pats but if he did I would love to draft him.

    I also dont understand the entire second TE thing that everyone is obsessed about. Aaron Hernandez was much more than a TE. He was more of a H-back. He lined up everywhere was an absolute matchup nightmare. Amaro on tape gets covered by safeties and he's average with the ball in his hand but not even close to what Hernandez was. A guy who I think can fill the void of Hernandez was the guy who got recruited by Urban Meyers to take over Hernandez at Florida. Trey Burton! This kid can line up all over the field, plays some WR, lined up as FB and RB and also takes snaps as a QB in the wildcat. But mostly played TE at Florida, he lacks the height of Hernandez but he plays very simular, almost like a RB in a TE body. Could be around in later rounds and have  a huge impact on the Pats team. 

     

     
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    I don't think there is any chance Aaron Donald will be there when we select, which is too bad because he looks like a guy that would help. I'm not saying Donald is a can't miss prospect, but the guy ran a 4.68 and he has the production to go with it. I do think Donald had better realize he can't just slip blocks his whole career in the NFL and expect to be a great player, but I imagine that will change when he gets some NFL coaching (and a NFL offensive line in front of him). As good as this guy looks, when he get's blocked...man does he get blocked...like knocked back 5 yards.

     
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    Thnx for its post, I really had no idea who to look out for and now I can go back to the combine results and see what's there

     
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    Jeff Janis out of Saginaw Valley State had a solid combine. He's not as short as BB likes to go, but he's an interesting prospect for a late round pick or undrafted free agent.

     
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    In response to WazzuWheatfarmer's comment:

    Looks good, MB.  I noticed that you didn't include Amaro or ASJ.  I know you aren't as high on ASJ as I am, but do you not think they are good fits for NE, or do you not think they will be there?  I really like Niklas, too, but I think 29 would be too early to take him, and I don't think he will be there at 62.  Mid-2nd is the range where I believe he should be drafted.  We would either have to trade back from 29, up from 62, or acquire a mid 2nd somehow.  Also, don't sleep on Xavier Su'a-Filo to go in the late first.  Guy is a flat out nasty Guard, and maybe the most NFL ready OL prospect in this class.  That is a pick that BB would make at 29 that would have most peole cussing, but I think it would be a solid move.  By the way, I love Pryor, too, but I'm not as optimistic that he will last past 20, let alone 29.  Guy's stock is on the rise, and rightfully so.



    I have Amaro as a Rd 1/2 kid... yeah, not a huge ASJ guy, certainly skilled, but just seems tp go through the motions, IMO.  If they snagged him at some point on Day 2 I'd be fine with it though.  Agree... Su'a-Filo is a very good player... believe he's plaued some LT too.

     
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    I don't think there is any chance Aaron Donald will be there when we select, which is too bad because he looks like a guy that would help. I'm not saying Donald is a can't miss prospect, but the guy ran a 4.68 and he has the production to go with it. I do think Donald had better realize he can't just slip blocks his whole career in the NFL and expect to be a great player, but I imagine that will change when he gets some NFL coaching (and a NFL offensive line in front of him). As good as this guy looks, when he get's blocked...man does he get blocked...like knocked back 5 yards.



    He could easily be gone by 29, I agree.

     
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    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    I get your board completely as you are dealing with only guys who could possibly be in position for the Patriots when they are selecting. Because we know all the guys who won't be available in round one. I agree the #1 guy on their board should be Pryor, rarely am I shocked by film, but if Rodney Harrison Jr. is available they will have to pass on TE's and DE's in round 1.

    As for guy number two, I put Hageman in that spot and after watching the combine I don't have any TE's who should be available to the Patriots at that 29 pick as a good value. Ebron won't be there, and though everyone else raves about his potential, I'm a little sceptical. Unlike everyone else on this board I like Colt Lyerla , but I have him as a 3-4 round pick. I was not there to hear his side of the story, and unlike everyone else here, I know there are two sides to every story. Like I learned many years ago it's not the telling of the story, but usually the person who tells their side first who wins the story award.



    Pryor def has some Rodney to him... kid likes to mash.  Hageman could easily be #1 with the ability that he flashes.

    I've heard/read nothing but bad things about Lyerla... we'll never agree on him.  

     
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    In response to jgallag1's comment:

    Jeff Janis out of Saginaw Valley State had a solid combine. He's not as short as BB likes to go, but he's an interesting prospect for a late round pick or undrafted free agent.



    Agreed, he's on the cusp of my board.  very good combo of size, speed and triangle #'s.

     
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    In response to seawolfxs' comment:

    Thnx for its post, I really had no idea who to look out for and now I can go back to the combine results and see what's there



    No prob, let me know if you have any questions.

     
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    Ive been reading some reports that Timmy Jernigan could fall in the draft. Don't think he will make it to the Pats but if he did I would love to draft him.

    I also dont understand the entire second TE thing that everyone is obsessed about. Aaron Hernandez was much more than a TE. He was more of a H-back. He lined up everywhere was an absolute matchup nightmare. Amaro on tape gets covered by safeties and he's average with the ball in his hand but not even close to what Hernandez was. A guy who I think can fill the void of Hernandez was the guy who got recruited by Urban Meyers to take over Hernandez at Florida. Trey Burton! This kid can line up all over the field, plays some WR, lined up as FB and RB and also takes snaps as a QB in the wildcat. But mostly played TE at Florida, he lacks the height of Hernandez but he plays very simular, almost like a RB in a TE body. Could be around in later rounds and have  a huge impact on the Pats team. 

     



    Kid can play... tough, stought amd displays active, heavy hands... very good vs the run. 

     
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    In response to mbeaulieu07's comment:

    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    I get your board completely as you are dealing with only guys who could possibly be in position for the Patriots when they are selecting. Because we know all the guys who won't be available in round one. I agree the #1 guy on their board should be Pryor, rarely am I shocked by film, but if Rodney Harrison Jr. is available they will have to pass on TE's and DE's in round 1.

    As for guy number two, I put Hageman in that spot and after watching the combine I don't have any TE's who should be available to the Patriots at that 29 pick as a good value. Ebron won't be there, and though everyone else raves about his potential, I'm a little sceptical. Unlike everyone else on this board I like Colt Lyerla , but I have him as a 3-4 round pick. I was not there to hear his side of the story, and unlike everyone else here, I know there are two sides to every story. Like I learned many years ago it's not the telling of the story, but usually the person who tells their side first who wins the story award.



    Pryor def has some Rodney to him... kid likes to mash.  Hageman could easily be #1 with the ability that he flashes.

    I've heard/read nothing but bad things about Lyerla... we'll never agree on him.  

    Yeah I realize that you don't agree with me about Lyerla and I'm OK with folks not being on the same page as I am. I just believe in seeing rather than reading what others say. I like your evals for the most part, I was reading on another site that gilbert is a late first maybe he drops into the Patriots area also, based upon his combine he's not going to make it past 25.


     
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    Heard from my sources (actually a radio show, relax Commie) that McCarron is a head case and did poorly in interviews. Anybody else hear that?

     

     
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    Heard from my sources (actually a radio show, relax Commie) that McCarron is a head case and did poorly in interviews. Anybody else hear that?

     



    I have not, what radio show?

     
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    Looks good, MB.  I noticed that you didn't include Amaro or ASJ.  I know you aren't as high on ASJ as I am, but do you not think they are good fits for NE, or do you not think they will be there?  I really like Niklas, too, but I think 29 would be too early to take him, and I don't think he will be there at 62.  Mid-2nd is the range where I believe he should be drafted.  We would either have to trade back from 29, up from 62, or acquire a mid 2nd somehow.  Also, don't sleep on Xavier Su'a-Filo to go in the late first.  Guy is a flat out nasty Guard, and maybe the most NFL ready OL prospect in this class.  That is a pick that BB would make at 29 that would have most peole cussing, but I think it would be a solid move.  By the way, I love Pryor, too, but I'm not as optimistic that he will last past 20, let alone 29.  Guy's stock is on the rise, and rightfully so.

     



    I have Amaro as a Rd 1/2 kid... yeah, not a huge ASJ guy, certainly skilled, but just seems tp go through the motions, IMO.  If they snagged him at some point on Day 2 I'd be fine with it though.  Agree... Su'a-Filo is a very good player... believe he's plaued some LT too.

     



    My bad.  Missed Amaro on the list.  Good call.  He should be drafted between 25 & 40, IMO.  Not a perfect player, but certainly a dangerous weapon.  Honestly Amaro is similar to ASJ to me.

     
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    Heard from my sources (actually a radio show, relax Commie) that McCarron is a head case and did poorly in interviews. Anybody else hear that?

     



    I have not, what radio show?



    On local show here in Tampa. A writer who covered combine said that was the buzz from inside.

     
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    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    I get your board completely as you are dealing with only guys who could possibly be in position for the Patriots when they are selecting. Because we know all the guys who won't be available in round one. I agree the #1 guy on their board should be Pryor, rarely am I shocked by film, but if Rodney Harrison Jr. is available they will have to pass on TE's and DE's in round 1.

    As for guy number two, I put Hageman in that spot and after watching the combine I don't have any TE's who should be available to the Patriots at that 29 pick as a good value. Ebron won't be there, and though everyone else raves about his potential, I'm a little sceptical. Unlike everyone else on this board I like Colt Lyerla , but I have him as a 3-4 round pick. I was not there to hear his side of the story, and unlike everyone else here, I know there are two sides to every story. Like I learned many years ago it's not the telling of the story, but usually the person who tells their side first who wins the story award.




    I  am with you on Colt Lyerla, only I feel he will be available in round 7 or possible a FA (similar to Da'Rick Rodgers WR last year). Huge talent but alot of off field red flags. He needs a structured environment like New Englands.

     
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    In response to Muzwell's comment:

    Heard from my sources (actually a radio show, relax Commie) that McCarron is a head case and did poorly in interviews. Anybody else hear that?

     



    Haven't heard or read that, but I'll take note and will check it out.

     
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    In response to Quagmire3's comment:

    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    I get your board completely as you are dealing with only guys who could possibly be in position for the Patriots when they are selecting. Because we know all the guys who won't be available in round one. I agree the #1 guy on their board should be Pryor, rarely am I shocked by film, but if Rodney Harrison Jr. is available they will have to pass on TE's and DE's in round 1.

    As for guy number two, I put Hageman in that spot and after watching the combine I don't have any TE's who should be available to the Patriots at that 29 pick as a good value. Ebron won't be there, and though everyone else raves about his potential, I'm a little sceptical. Unlike everyone else on this board I like Colt Lyerla , but I have him as a 3-4 round pick. I was not there to hear his side of the story, and unlike everyone else here, I know there are two sides to every story. Like I learned many years ago it's not the telling of the story, but usually the person who tells their side first who wins the story award.




    I  am with you on Colt Lyerla, only I feel he will be available in round 7 or possible a FA (similar to Da'Rick Rodgers WR last year). Huge talent but alot of off field red flags. He needs a structured environment like New Englands.




    After the garbage that Lyerla spewed about Sandy Hook, I would be absolutely shocked if ended up in Foxboro... don't believe the Kraft Family would allow for it.

     
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