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    One of my favorite things about Belichick and the Patriots organization is that they talk to the media as little as possible. They couldn't care less what the idiot talking heads are saying or writing and I love that about them. I thought they issued a sincere statement showing their sorrow and condolences to the victims family, cut ties with the problem, and now they are focused on the upcoming training camp. if you are expecting another statement from them regarding Aaron Hernandez then you will be waiting an awful long time. Go Pats!

     
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    Who did that guy on the Browns murder again?

     



    He was charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER. A felony.  When did the media demand the Browns make more than a statement?

     

    Have the Browns even made a statement and cut the player?

    EDIT: Yes, he was released.  Have we gotten enough from the Browns and why oh why they signed a future murderer?  How come the Browns did not know one of their players was capable of such things??!!

     

     

     

     



    Well the guy didn't murder anyone, so I guess that's better than say...murdering three. We just gave 5 million to a guy that shot at his sister's boyfriend two years ago...that's attempted murder, right? I mean Talib wasn't trying to just get his attention. We didn't cut Talib, in fact we traded for him and then gave him 5 million. And how about the guy that is going to jail for punching a cop in the face? Oh yeah, Dennard is now considered our savior at corner...wonder if they'll cut him? 

     

     

     




    Sure, sure. Only our team has questionable character people on it.  You're one of the more intelligent people I've seen on a messageboard. lmao

    Orlanda Cepeda got manslaughter for trying to murder someone with a baseball bat. He's in the MLB HOF.  You act like only the Pats have questionable character guys and then act all horrified that Jon Kraft can;t have 100% choir boys in here because he preaches how great his leadership is. What a crock.

    If you don't like the Krafts, BB, etc, please find a new team to root for, Mr Phony. Meanwhile, Brady knocks up some gal and runs off and you don't say a word about principle on that. Hmm.

    You constantly talk out of both sides of your mouth. The NBA and NFL are littered with questionable people like this. LOADED.  If you didn't take some risks you're going to be walking away from 50% of the opportunities.

     

    There have been 30 arrests since February in the NFL, more than one for murder.

    Good job comparing a sklrmish outside a bar to murder, too. That's just really intelligent.




    ^^Reads like it was written by dumbo.

    We gave 41 million to Dexter Morgan...we gave 5 million and a third round pick for a thug corner who shot at someone. We drafted a slow linebacker in the second round who has his own porn video online. We have a corner from Nebraska that punched a cop in the face and will be doing jail time next year. I can guarantee you that Kraft is not enjoying the recent work of the "best GM ever". Guarantee.

    You really can't be this stupid, can you? You think that Kraft is enjoying this recent run of embarrassment? You think that guys like Talib, Spikes and Dennard are going to be on this team after next season? If you don't think Kraft is asking some very pointed and critical questions regarding our "best GM ever's" ability to acquire players, you are karazzzzy. I mean you are way past the point of lacking milk at birth here rusty...way beyond a vitamin D deficiency. Let me guess, you bought your weed off Hernandez and now you're going through withdrawals??

     

     
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    ^^Reads like it was written by dumbo.

     

    We gave 41 million to Dexter Morgan...we gave 5 million and a third round pick for a thug corner who shot at someone. We drafted a slow linebacker in the second round who has his own porn video online. We have a corner from Nebraska that punched a cop in the face and will be doing jail time next year. I can guarantee you that Kraft is not enjoying the recent work of the "best GM ever". Guarantee.

    You really can't be this stupid, can you? You think that Kraft is enjoying this recent run of embarrassment? You think that guys like Talib, Spikes and Dennard are going to be on this team after next season? If you don't think Kraft is asking some very pointed and critical questions regarding our "best GM ever's" ability to acquire players, you are karazzzzy. I mean you are way past the point of lacking milk at birth here rusty...way beyond a vitamin D deficiency. Let me guess, you bought your weed off Hernandez and now you're going through withdrawals??

     



    Funny stuff at the beginning.  Hernandez was the Pats "dark passenger"!

    Quite a list of bad guys that are making millions from the classy Bob Kraft.  It's all worth it, however, because those questionable players have helped the Pats win the Superbo...oh wait.

    (This isn't saying that I dislike the Pats, nor is it an attack on the organization.  It's me saying, "If you're going to employ the Scum of the Earth, make it count."  It hasn't yet.)

     
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    I fully disagree.  As soon as he was arrested, the Pats cut all ties with him.  They released a statement.  It's done on the football side.  Everyone is still talking about it, but from a business of football view, it's done.

    I'll follow the story in the news because it's interesting, surprising and downright nuts.  Other team's fans will love to bring it up as if it's a lightning rod of horror for us Pats fans.   I was out a bar in Florida last night with a Pats shirt on.  A guy tries to be the funnyman.

    Guy:  Patriots, huh?  Go Hernandez.

    Me:  Yeah, that happens.  Who's your team?

    Guy:  Dolphins.

    Me:  Dolphins, huh?  Go who-ever-the-hell-plays-for-them-these-days.

    That was that.

    My point?  As soon as the Pats canceled the deal, it ceased to be a football story.



    haha pretty good comeback Not

     
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    Didnt I read yest only Ashley Fox wrote articles like this? And Bill Reynolds. And Whiock. And Wilbur. and, and

     



    And, you know what? They're all arrogant.  Isn't it clear that Hernandez is in jail awaiting trial and NOT a NE Patriot anymore?

     

    When does BB speak about players not on this team? It's consistent, standard policy and I expct nothing more, because they don't owe anybody anymore. It's that simple.

    We're not owed anything.  Hernandez may have murdered someone. I think LLoyd's family is owed justice for Oden Lloyd. That's what I think.

    This media arrogance expecting Kraft and BB to call  live press conference to explain why Hernandez did what he did is out of hand. Did the Panthers do it with Rae Carruth? What about the Browns LB from the same week Hernandez was arrested? This proves the media is a fraud when covering anything tied to Bill Belichick.  If they hadn't cut him with a statement, immediately, you would have been on here complaining about that, like the fraud you are.

    It's pretty clear handing Hernandez a new deal was a mistake, in hindsight.  The media and you, the arrogant RKrap, as arrogant as arrogant can be, only form that opinion because you can't accept that it's impossible for BB and Kraft to not have know, which is clearly pathetic. Doesn't the immediate release based on the charges (no obstruction) symbolize how they feel? How is that not good enough? 

    Fans of other teams who hates us (and are jealous) are praising how well NE has handled this odd and tough situation. What does that tell you? EVen they can't criticize and the usual loser, agenda driven fans they usually are.

    They thought he had matured, did not know of previous incidents and that's that.   This is just another example of the media wanting more and more out of Bill Belichick to such an irrational and ridiculous level.  As if BB is supposed to personally chaperone adults?  

    Where was this outrage with Modell and Ray Lewis when they backed a felon (who got off with an OJesque payoff)?

     




     
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    I don't think you'll hear Belichick say a thing about Hernandez, but for all the people that think the Patriots don't have to speak about this or give more than the statement they gave when they released him, don't live around here. They are getting absolutely murdered (no pun intended) locally on the radio, papers, and everywhere you go regarding this. People want to know how a guy like this was given a contract like that. How a guy like that was drafted by the team and brought into our cummunity. Think about this....the Patriots drafted, signed and extended a guy who may of murdered three people. This is an organization that has endless means to investigate their employees...yet this happened? I'm not saying they knew exactly what type of person this guy was, but they had better come out and talk about it.

    Little Jonathan Kraft loves talking to the media about how much better an organization he has...how much smarter they are than everyone else...how they do everything right. They've had three weeks to sit with their lawyers, public relations specialists and figure something to say...they need to say it.

     



    this is what Pats fans don't get and won't see, King Queenie at the top of the list as usual and I am sure he/they will be all over u for stating this Hurl but ur correct and honest

    the Yankee-like arrogance that is hated by MLB fans and certainly Red Sox fans for generations ie: we are are above all others and we let everyone know it and carry ourselves as if everyone should strive to be us, etc, that somewhat haughty attitude they can give off ...has come back to bite the Pats/BB/Kraft 

    when u have this people are going to come after you when you fail and that is what we see now-and this is not a failure this is a FAILURE as far as what is involved here and how deep this may go

    to be fair, I don't think however BB or Kraft or anyone with the Pats could have forseen THIS...trouble and some risk yes but all we are hearing now? I don't think anyone thought this is their worst nightmare

     
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    One of my favorite things about Belichick and the Patriots organization is that they talk to the media as little as possible. They couldn't care less what the idiot talking heads are saying or writing and I love that about them. I thought they issued a sincere statement showing their sorrow and condolences to the victims family, cut ties with the problem, and now they are focused on the upcoming training camp. if you are expecting another statement from them regarding Aaron Hernandez then you will be waiting an awful long time. Go Pats!



    To borrow one from Boomer "no one circles wagons like the New England Patriots".   The writer says the team "preaches righteousness".   I don't think the Pats preach at all.  They certainly refrain from telling other people what to do.

    The Pats will say what they always say.  Very little.

     
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    No idea who Dexter Morgan is? But anyway, the Talib deal is, allegedly (and as I recall), that his sister called him because her BF slapped her around and he showed up with a gun, or his mother had the gun and he got a hold of it (I don't recall the details), and pistol-whipped the guy. So, it was a fit of rage type of deal that I presume Kraft was aware of and signed off on.

    He also assaulted a cab driver, hit LT Donald Penn with a helmet and loudly cussed out his head coach in a crowded hotel lobby. He's a punk, at least he has been. He clearly has a serious temper and not much of a filter. I personally didn't care for the trade for these reasons, but by all accounts he's been fine in Foxboro.

    All that said, this type of stuff is child's play compared to the wannabe Tony Montana, AH. That's evil, not anger.

    While we're at it here, your newest ex-Buc Mr. Blount is no angel himself. Don't like that acquisition either.

     
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    I don't think you'll hear Belichick say a thing about Hernandez, but for all the people that think the Patriots don't have to speak about this or give more than the statement they gave when they released him, don't live around here. They are getting absolutely murdered (no pun intended) locally on the radio, papers, and everywhere you go regarding this. People want to know how a guy like this was given a contract like that. How a guy like that was drafted by the team and brought into our cummunity. Think about this....the Patriots drafted, signed and extended a guy who may of murdered three people. This is an organization that has endless means to investigate their employees...yet this happened? I'm not saying they knew exactly what type of person this guy was, but they had better come out and talk about it.

    Little Jonathan Kraft loves talking to the media about how much better an organization he has...how much smarter they are than everyone else...how they do everything right. They've had three weeks to sit with their lawyers, public relations specialists and figure something to say...they need to say it.

     

     




    Say what?  We didn't tune up our crystal ball? Are you this stupid?  They are supposed to connect weed and immaturity and a bad upbringing to murder?

     

    What did the Baltimore Ravens say when they protected a double murderer?

    They only reason the media is attacking the Pats is EXACTLY why I've been saying for YEARS here. Any way they can attach negativity to BB, they will do it, string it out and make money of of it for as long as they can.

    Dopes like you feed off it and they USE you to make money. How does that feel to be taken for a ride like that? 

    You're a teacher and you can't see this? Still?  There is no way you went to college.

    And, "little" Jon Kraft (Bob is little too) says nothing about how great his organization is. He barely does interviews or speaks. 

    This whole Patriot Way term was ALSO a media concoction. None of what you say is accurate, whatsoever.  As usual.

    Pats made a statement and their swift release of Hernandez said enough to most educated people.



    Why do you consistently point to the Ravens botching the Ray Lewis situation as something that makes the Pats botching the Hern situation as ok? 

    Good, bad or indifferent, what the Ravens did, you obviously do not agree with. Why does that make what he Pats are doing right? Because theRavens did not cut Lewis immediately and the Pats cut Hern immediately makes what the Pats are doing perfect?

    The NFL with the Pats right by its side needs to come out with something, including a pledge of harsher penalties for criminal activity. Hern obviously won't play football again, but the next step is the NFL making stronger policy and back ground checks. 

     
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    I heard this guy is impressing at Pats Camp.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDp6kcoxAUE

     



    Kenbrell Thompkins is an interesting prospect, that Lane Kiffen wanted him to come to Tennessee which seems to be a factory for #1 draft pick WR's piques my interest.  He took a long circuitous route to the NFL, was productive in Cincinnati when he got there, had decent (4.4) speed, good agility drills, decent size, good hands and a solid vertical.  He's not being lumped in with Dobson and Boyce as potential stars but maybe he should be... 

     



    Good info.  I wasn't sure what to think of his combine results.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kenbrell-thompkins?id=2539214

     
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    I dont think you can compare the ray lewis situation and AH one cause its totally different times ,what 20 yrs or something.Now Sports are more stericked on things or suposse to be to prevent these things from happening.As for Goodell hes a joke when the league seems to be getting worse!!

     
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    I heard this guy is impressing at Pats Camp.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDp6kcoxAUE

     

     



    Kenbrell Thompkins is an interesting prospect, that Lane Kiffen wanted him to come to Tennessee which seems to be a factory for #1 draft pick WR's piques my interest.  He took a long circuitous route to the NFL, was productive in Cincinnati when he got there, had decent (4.4) speed, good agility drills, decent size, good hands and a solid vertical.  He's not being lumped in with Dobson and Boyce as potential stars but maybe he should be... 

     

     

     



    Good info.  I wasn't sure what to think of his combine results.

     

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kenbrell-thompkins?id=2539214



    Now hold on fellas, you're talking football!? Don't you know this is a crime and punishment message board. Why don't you take that football stuff someplace where people care...er, ah, never mind...

     
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    http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2013/07/is-boston-com-ever-going-to-address-the-eric-wilbur-embarrassment

    Wow! Go Bruce!

     
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    I heard this guy is impressing at Pats Camp.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDp6kcoxAUE

     

     



    Kenbrell Thompkins is an interesting prospect, that Lane Kiffen wanted him to come to Tennessee which seems to be a factory for #1 draft pick WR's piques my interest.  He took a long circuitous route to the NFL, was productive in Cincinnati when he got there, had decent (4.4) speed, good agility drills, decent size, good hands and a solid vertical.  He's not being lumped in with Dobson and Boyce as potential stars but maybe he should be... 

     

     

     



    Good info.  I wasn't sure what to think of his combine results.

     

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kenbrell-thompkins?id=2539214



    decent speed and above average agility?

    how are his hands?

     
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    Kenbrell Thompkins is an interesting prospect, that Lane Kiffen wanted him to come to Tennessee which seems to be a factory for #1 draft pick WR's piques my interest.  He took a long circuitous route to the NFL, was productive in Cincinnati when he got there, had decent (4.4) speed, good agility drills, decent size, good hands and a solid vertical.  He's not being lumped in with Dobson and Boyce as potential stars but maybe he should be... 

     

     

     

     

     



    Good info.  I wasn't sure what to think of his combine results.

     

     

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kenbrell-thompkins?id=2539214

     



    decent speed and above average agility?

     

    how are his hands?



    STRENGTHS - Gets moving quickly at the snap of the ball and is able to accelerate fast to close cushion when cornerback lines up off the LOS. Not only does he get to full speed fast, but he has the playing speed to get behind the defense and create deep separation. He does a good job of selling fakes to turn cornerback and is able to get open because of them. When he feels he has to break off a route he shows the athleticism, especially agility and feet, to get turned around with head and hands in right spot to catch pass. When he tucks the ball away cleanly he is quick getting started up the field after the catch, runs strong and aggressively with the ball which helps him to run through arm/grab tackles and hits to gain yards after contact. When he maintains focus he shows good hands and combined with his body control and coordination has shown the ability to adjust and catch off-target passes. Highly competitive, Thompkins gets after defender quickly on blocks, stays over feet and blocks man out of the play consistently. .

    WEAKNESSES - Despite showing the ability to break off route to adjust to quick hitting passes and to turn cornerback around with good fakes, Thompkins needs to improve his route running. His footwork running routes needs work - He does not get in and out of cuts quickly, which hinders his ability to create separation consistently. Additionally, for a player who makes highlight catches seem easy, he seems to lose focus at times which leads to him dropping passes he should easily catch. For a receiver with good playing strength and athleticism, it is surprising how he struggles fighting through a cornerback's jam to release quickly vs press coverage.

    SUMMARY - After a strong week at the Texas Versus the Nation Game, I expected more from Thompkins when I evaluated the film. However, he is much more of an inconsistent player than a polished, consistent one ready to contribute immediately in the NFL. There is little doubt from what I have seen that he has the talent to be a productive starting receiver in the NFL, but if he does not greatly improve his consistency catching the ball and run much sharper routes then he will have a hard time making an NFL roster. Overall, I think Thompkins will be a late round pick because of his physical talent and potential, but he is definitely a developmental prospect who may be best off spending a season on a practice squad to improve his route running and hopefully to get him to maintain focus/concentration so that he can catch the ball more consistently.

     

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=46031

     
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    Kenbrell Thompkins is an interesting prospect, that Lane Kiffen wanted him to come to Tennessee which seems to be a factory for #1 draft pick WR's piques my interest.  He took a long circuitous route to the NFL, was productive in Cincinnati when he got there, had decent (4.4) speed, good agility drills, decent size, good hands and a solid vertical.  He's not being lumped in with Dobson and Boyce as potential stars but maybe he should be... 

     

     

     

     

     



    Good info.  I wasn't sure what to think of his combine results.

     

     

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kenbrell-thompkins?id=2539214

     



    Now hold on fellas, you're talking football!? Don't you know this is a crime and punishment message board. Why don't you take that football stuff someplace where people care...er, ah, never mind...

     



    I feel ashamed... would you like to start a pissin' contest with me, lol?

     
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    What a rip job, top to bottom.  When's the press conference?

     
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    I am still missing the point of the Pats, the NFL and Kraft specifically not saying anything is the right thing to do? To think Wilbur's article doesn't hit home with the moral majority is close minded. Go talk to a non football fan who sees what is happening in the NFL on CNN and ask them what they think about the thuggery in the NFL. Go talk to a corporate owner of a block of season tickets or a lux box and ask them if they are happy with the situation. 

    We are working in a segment about the NFL and criminal activity, and make sure you listen to what Kraft says on camera regarding Hern and players in general that break the law. It sounds like changes are ging to happen in Foxboro and it sounds like Kraft is very insistent that changes in the NFL are also underway...

    I am very cognizant that there is a percent of the general public that simply doesn't care. As long as the Pats win, and they wiped their hands of Hern after the fact, all is well. I even pointed out he re on BDC regarding the moron who is comparing the Ravens do nothingness to the Pats cutting Hern. But is the segment that simply doesn't care, not aware that there is a large part of the population, fan base and sponsorship that cares very much?

     
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    To borrow one from Boomer "no one circles wagons like the New England Patriots".   The writer says the team "preaches righteousness".   I don't think the Pats preach at all.  They certainly refrain from telling other people what to do.

     


    The Pats will say what they always say.  Very little.

     




     

    Insofar as I feel like I've already said all I'm going to say about this whole murder thing, I think it's worth pointing out -- especially living out of market as I do -- that all of this "Patriot Way" stuff and the perceived arrogance of the organization is not something that comes out of Foxboro . . .  it's something that is laid at the Pats' doorstep by hacks (and players) in other markets who look at New England's relative success this century and need to find ways to denigrate it to satisfy their own egos.

    I guess the easiest way to describe it is as jealousy. Somebody somewhere else in the thread mentioned Red Sox fans' attitude as regards the seemingly perpetual greatness of the Yankees. Sure, we hate them and consider them "arrogant" and wouldn't ever want to be like them and yet, so many of us don't seem to see the irony -- as is so often the case (which is what makes irony so funny) --  of other people applying the same double-standard from afar to the team for which we root.

    They're going to drag your team through the mud any chance they get because  it assuages the desperation of rooting for some team, somewhere, that almost never competes near the top and offers little in the way of hope.

    Simple human nature, boys and girls.

    For further illumination on this point, I refer you to a particular fox and some very high grapes.

     

     
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    I am still missing the point of the Pats, the NFL and Kraft specifically not saying anything is the right thing to do? To think Wilbur's article doesn't hit home with the moral majority is close minded. Go talk to a non football fan who sees what is happening in the NFL on CNN and ask them what they think about the thuggery in the NFL. Go talk to a corporate owner of a block of season tickets or a lux box and ask them if they are happy with the situation. 

    We are working in a segment about the NFL and criminal activity, and make sure you listen to what Kraft says on camera regarding Hern and players in general that break the law. It sounds like changes are ging to happen in Foxboro and it sounds like Kraft is very insistent that changes in the NFL are also underway...

    I am very cognizant that there is a percent of the general public that simply doesn't care. As long as the Pats win, and they wiped their hands of Hern after the fact, all is well. I even pointed out he re on BDC regarding the moron who is comparing the Ravens do nothingness to the Pats cutting Hern. But is the segment that simply doesn't care, not aware that there is a large part of the population, fan base and sponsorship that cares very much?



    You either need to come down off your high horse or just find another team to follow if you don't like how the Patriots are handling this.  Maybe another sport altogether.

    This way, you will hopefully go to another forum to whine.

     
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    To borrow one from Boomer "no one circles wagons like the New England Patriots".   The writer says the team "preaches righteousness".   I don't think the Pats preach at all.  They certainly refrain from telling other people what to do.

     


    The Pats will say what they always say.  Very little.

     




     

    Insofar as I feel like I've already said all I'm going to say about this whole murder thing, I think it's worth pointing out -- especially living out of market as I do -- that all of this "Patriot Way" stuff and the perceived arrogance of the organization is not something that comes out of Foxboro . . .  it's something that is laid at the Pats' doorstep by hacks (and players) in other markets who look at New England's relative success this century and need to find ways to denigrate it to satisfy their own egos.

    I guess the easiest way to describe it is as jealousy. Somebody somewhere else in the thread mentioned Red Sox fans' attitude as regards the seemingly perpetual greatness of the Yankees. Sure, we hate them and consider them "arrogant" and wouldn't ever want to be like them and yet, so many of us don't seem to see the irony -- as is so often the case (which is what makes irony so funny) --  of other people applying the same double-standard from afar to the team for which we root.

    They're going to drag your team through the mud any chance they get because  it assuages the desperation of rooting for some team, somewhere, that almost never competes near the top and offers little in the way of hope.

    Simple human nature, boys and girls.

    For further illumination on this point, I refer you to a particular fox and some very high grapes.

     

     




    Exactly. The Patriot Way was a media conconction stemming from jealousy that they made strides in taking pride in what they do. Those words have never been uttered by any employee in FOxborough. Ever.

     

    Pure jealousy.  Other teams almost encouraged thuggery and immaurity, while NE wanted good people as much as possible, usually choosing it far before combine results. Character ranks high, no doubt, but it's nothing to apologize for either.

    Spygate was the same way. Once they were able to see momentum by perpetuating lies and whatnot, leaving fact and truth out, they could manipulate the truth and profit off it as well.

     



    this is so ridiculous on so many levels but considering the source completely predictable

     
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    Re: My thoughts, exactly

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    I am still missing the point of the Pats, the NFL and Kraft specifically not saying anything is the right thing to do? ......

    They did release a statement, then they did the jersey exchange. What else are they supposed to do/say? There's also the issue of liability, which is absolutely very real.

    If you're waiting on a big press conference, or somebody crying on camera or something along those lines, I wouldn't hold my breath.

     



     
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    Re: My thoughts, exactly

    In response to Muzwell's comment:

    In response to rkarp's comment:

     

    I am still missing the point of the Pats, the NFL and Kraft specifically not saying anything is the right thing to do? ......

     

     

    They did release a statement, then they did the jersey exchange. What else are they supposed to do/say? There's also the issue of liability, which is absolutely very real.

    If you're waiting on a big press conference, or somebody crying on camera or something along those lines, I wouldn't hold my breath.

     





    Muzzy,

    You are 100% correct that a lawsuit will be coming

    regarding the NFL or the PAts specifically...I know for fact that they will make a joint announcement decrying the state of criminal activity in the NFL, and that they are going to put in measures to reduce the likelihood that these guys are playing in the NFL. The penalties/suspensions are going to get a lot harsher, and a contract clause will be mandatory for all teams, not team by team decided...

    the delay in this announcement is waiting on the legalities...because as you said a massive law suit will be coming

     
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    Re: My thoughts, exactly

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    Seattle Pat called me slightly annoying. What are you? Majorly annoying?




    You are the most annoying person on earth. You make a nagging wife seem like a godsend. You make a pestering child seem like an angel. You make chronic pain seem like a blessing. You make cracked and festering blisters seem like a gentle caress. You make dog dung all over the front yard seem like a splendid garden. You make a cat fight at 3am seem like the harping of angels.  If annoying were a crime, you'd get a life sentence.

     

     

     
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    Re: My thoughts, exactly

    You won't see anything from the Pats on this, either at a press conference or in a written release nor, in my opinion, should you.  The Pats owe no one an explanation and I really couldn't care less if every NFL commentator talking (as opposed to thinking) head screams for one on a daily basis.

     
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