Near Brilliant Belichick

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    Near Brilliant Belichick

    For all you nay sayers out there who are questioning the big re signings of Wilfork and Banta Cain, let me give my take on it.
    By signing not only Wilfork but ALSO Banta Cain, it showed more than just "only our super elite players will be getting paid". that kind of message has to ripple through the locker room (especially on the defensive side). The defense was weak last year, and by having these two signings of big $$, every other player is going to remember that-same goes for any free agents on the market. If the Pats had only re-signed Wilfork for big $$, it would have been the expected thing to do and nobody would have really thought twice about it. These moves brought a LOT of positive attention to this team..just watch the off season unfold
     
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    I respectfully disagree.  No way they throw money around, it goes against there core beliefs.  I agree with the theory that Wilfork was resigned as a backup plan for not landing Peppers.  They had an entire year to get the deal done but wait to just after the Peppers signing.........coincidence?
     
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    pewee- 

    I agree. I think this is about sending the message that if people like Banta-Cain (a 7th round pick lest we forget) step up to play hard and be a team player, this is what happens. Same for Wilfork, higher pick but, he has quietly played superb and done what is asked of him. I'm not saying players like Adalius Thomas will get it but, others are surely watching. They remember Banta-Cain coming in with little chance and now the guy is gettin' it done! Good for him and Wilfork. 

    If anything, the past 2 days moves have showed that the Patriots have not forgotten what getting AD has done. Zilch essentially. That's why they never pulled the trigger on Peppers. They waited to see what he'd get for money and basically gave Wilfork about the same. Peppers would be the next AD IMO. 

    Hard work should get rewarded. I think you're right in that maybe this will light a fire under some of the under achievers on the team. 
     
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    Actually, it is about spending money smartly. Peppers was paid about 3 times more than TBC and had 1/2 a sack more last year. Peppers is a good player, but he is getting paid more for name recognition, what he has done in the past, and what the team hopes they can do. Plus, Lovie Smith and Jerry Angelo have one foot out the door in Chicago and they are doing what they can to win now to keep their jobs and don't have to care about the long term financial health of the team. Plus, there is no way in the world you let Wilfork go for Peppers. That would have been the biggest boneheaded move ever, and it wasnt done because we have a excellent head coach running the team!
     
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    WIthout a great DT does Peppers even end up having double digit sacks when he faces Long and Ferguson twice a year. By showing interest in Peppers the Pats, at least, demostrate a willingness to grab some quality players. Cain is not as good as Peppers, but the Pats know what they are getting with him. They basically have to hope that Peppers converts to great 3-4 OLB after playing the 4-3 DE. Not exactly a seamless transition.

    At best the Bears spent a ton of money for maybe two more wins. They still have this century's Jeff George at QB and we have this century's Joe Montana at QB (and he needs an extension).
     
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    Your giving BB more credit than he deserves. Enough already with this notion that every thing this man does is "genius". He's taking a reactive approach as always which can work sometimes..but more often than not it backfires. Watch how the Bodden thing plays out. He's good as gone because as usual they miscaculated the market for DB's. They'll now need to pay dearly to keep him..which they won't do.
     
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    In Response to Re: Near Brilliant Belichick:
    Your giving BB more credit than he deserves. Enough already with this notion that every thing this man does is "genius". He's taking a reactive approach as always which can work sometimes..but more often than not it backfires. Watch how the Bodden thing plays out. He's good as gone because as usual they miscaculated the market for DB's. They'll now need to pay dearly to keep him..which they won't do.
    Posted by smorgan86


    You are an idiot leon or who ever you are.  Told you already go back to jets forums
     
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    Lazurus-

    The more I think this over, Derrick Mason could be a real pickup for us. He's 36 sure but, he still did very well last year. Moss, Edelman, Patten, Mason would be a decent 4 for Brady to throw to. Now, factor in Brandon Tate and if he plays like he can, look out. In the meantime, if Tate comes along slow, we have Mason. Nobody expects Mason to get 85 receptions but, if Brady has those 4 to throw to, he can mix it up like he likes to. I've always liked Mason myself. Oh, BTW, Mason stats last year? 

    73 rec/1028 yds/ZERO fumbles. Got to like that.  

    TBC does something for our pass rush (or lack thereof) but, we need full time pass rushers. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Near Brilliant Belichick:
    I respectfully disagree.  No way they throw money around, it goes against there core beliefs.  I agree with the theory that Wilfork was resigned as a backup plan for not landing Peppers.  They had an entire year to get the deal done but wait to just after the Peppers signing.........coincidence?
    Posted by Tcal2


    You could have a real point. If he Pats had landed Peppers then the plan moving forward would have been to draft somebody like Mount Cody of Alabama to play the nose and let Wilfork walk. Now that's mote. One side note, I wish I had a crystal ball to see how Ron Brace ends up with the Pats? He was a high round pick (2nd) last year and had a tough rookie season. Not what Belichick had hoped for.
     
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    Coaching and managing an NFL team is filled with random events.  Belichick's overall body of work has been brilliant, no qualifiers, no seasons starting in 2001 that were below 10-6 and a number that were far better. 

    He's still going to draft people who pop their ACLs the first day out, and players will get quietly injured throughout the year, and the random events aren't really a reflection on his coaching intelligence.
     
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    Laz,

    I agree wholeheartedly. I feel strongly the reason Belichick has been stockpiling draft picks is because of the quality of this years draft. Trading out would defeat the purpose.

    The draft is how NE must reload. With last years draft and four picks in the first two rounds this year and two number ones next year the Pats appear to be setting up pretty well for the future.
     
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