New Development Which Could Help Patriots Land DeSean Jackson....

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    New Development Which Could Help Patriots Land DeSean Jackson....

    The Eagles are reportedly willing to release Jackson if he can't be traded.  Unless some team is willing to break the bank for Jackson (which is suspect since the Eagles are willing to dump him) he might have to take a one year deal to reprove himself to the league.       

    If Jackson came to New England for a one year deal with tons of incentives, he could easily have a 1,400 yard 15 TD season, especially playing with a great QB for the first time in his career.   If he showed big numbers and a winning attitude, he'd rehit the market next season at 28 (still in the prime of his career) and could land a massive contract for a team needing a number one WR.   Plus it's also a WR talented draft, which may also prevent other teams from breaking the bank this late in FA on Jackson.  

     

     

     
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    Isn't it, in a way, rather sad that we have to view signings as one year things?  A prove yourself here for one year so you can move on and get real money, for your prime years, somewhere else.

    GM's who operate this way should be fired because that's a chitty long term business plan.

     
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    Why is it sad?  The fact the Patriots can do this proves the following things:  

    - That the Patriots are a winning franchise year in and year out, players know at least if they sign with the Pats they are going to make the playoffs which only helps their rep.  Most teams can't say that.    (A GM should be fired for this -- why because they're in the playoffs each year.)  

    - That the Patriots have built a solid roster, where they aren't relying on the troubled player to come in and save the franchise.   Perfect example Chad Johnson and Albert Haynesworth, had they become dominate forces we may have won a couple Superbowls, but they're lack of production didn't keep the Patriots from being a contender.  Low risk - high reward.

    - The BB and the leaders in the locker room are strong enough to handle players with baggage.  That's the problem around the league with most teams.  The Head Coach isn't proven enough and the locker room doesn't have leaders who can stop these cancers from spreading.  

     
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    Why is it sad?  The fact the Patriots can do this proves the following things:  

    - That the Patriots are a winning franchise year in and year out, players know at least if they sign with the Pats they are going to make the playoffs which only helps their rep.  Most teams can't say that.    (A GM should be fired for this -- why because they're in the playoffs each year.)  

    - That the Patriots have built a solid roster, where they aren't relying on the troubled player to come in and save the franchise.   Perfect example Chad Johnson and Albert Haynesworth, had they become dominate forces we may have won a couple Superbowls, but they're lack of production didn't keep the Patriots from being a contender.  Low risk - high reward.

    - The BB and the leaders in the locker room are strong enough to handle players with baggage.  That's the problem around the league with most teams.  The Head Coach isn't proven enough and the locker room doesn't have leaders who can stop these cancers from spreading.  

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    Yes, now that it's 2003 again, players are just flocking to NE and taking short money just for the chance to win a SB.  Look at Revis.  He easily could have gotten 20 mil from any number of teams, but he only took the patsies for 12.

     
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    It's not sad for either party, and that goes beyond the Pats.  Denver, SF or Seattle etc could easily do they same.  The player gets good money short-term, out of unworkable deal, and has the chance to rake it in the next year.  

    Most players are working on much shorter deals.  The L-T deals are myths.  It's smart for the player, agent and team. Revis structured his deal so they can't franchise him.  They can work an extension, but they aren't brining him in for 2015 under those terms. 

     
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    In response to MileHighMike's comment:
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    Why is it sad?  The fact the Patriots can do this proves the following things:  

    - That the Patriots are a winning franchise year in and year out, players know at least if they sign with the Pats they are going to make the playoffs which only helps their rep.  Most teams can't say that.    (A GM should be fired for this -- why because they're in the playoffs each year.)  

    - That the Patriots have built a solid roster, where they aren't relying on the troubled player to come in and save the franchise.   Perfect example Chad Johnson and Albert Haynesworth, had they become dominate forces we may have won a couple Superbowls, but they're lack of production didn't keep the Patriots from being a contender.  Low risk - high reward.

    - The BB and the leaders in the locker room are strong enough to handle players with baggage.  That's the problem around the league with most teams.  The Head Coach isn't proven enough and the locker room doesn't have leaders who can stop these cancers from spreading.  

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    Yes, now that it's 2003 again, players are just flocking to NE and taking short money just for the chance to win a SB.  Look at Revis.  He easily could have gotten 20 mil from any number of teams, but he only took the patsies for 12.

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    <sniff, sniff>

    Opps...ExZimmerman smells just like MHM...HMMMMMMMM!?

    RON MEXICO LIVES!!!!!!!

     
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    DeSean Jackson will not be signing with NE.  Guaranteed.  Way too much $$$.

     
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    It's not sad for either party, and that goes beyond the Pats.  Denver, SF or Seattle etc could easily do they same.  The player gets good money short-term, out of unworkable deal, and has the chance to rake it in the next year.  

    Most players are working on much shorter deals.  The L-T deals are myths.  It's smart for the player, agent and team. Revis structured his deal so they can't franchise him.  They can work an extension, but they aren't brining him in for 2015 under those terms. 

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    Yeah, yeah, but you're ignoring the most important thing. You must find any possible reason you can to find fault with the GM, even if it means making stuff up out of totally irrelevant speculation. If our GM is doing it or even considering it, or even if someone is just speculating that it's possible that he might do it (as with Jackson), then it's irresponsible and a sign of incompetence and inhumanity, and he should be fired.

     
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    It's not sad for either party, and that goes beyond the Pats.  Denver, SF or Seattle etc could easily do they same.  The player gets good money short-term, out of unworkable deal, and has the chance to rake it in the next year.  

    Most players are working on much shorter deals.  The L-T deals are myths.  It's smart for the player, agent and team. Revis structured his deal so they can't franchise him.  They can work an extension, but they aren't brining him in for 2015 under those terms. 

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    Yeah, yeah, but you're ignoring the most important thing. You must find any possible reason you can to find fault with the GM, even if it means making stuff up out of totally irrelevant speculation. If our GM is doing it or even considering it, or even if someone is just speculating that it's possible that he might do it (as with Jackson), then it's irresponsible and a sign of incompetence and inhumanity, and he should be fired.

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    Well obviously, and if he does due diligence and it doesn't work out then he really stinks. 

     
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    Just a prediction:  BB hates short, fast receivers.  Worse, Brady can't throw the ball 50 yards with any accuracy, especially not in Foxboro's December winds, although he can consistently nail those 6 yard passes right on the money.

     
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    In response to croc's comment:
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    It's not sad for either party, and that goes beyond the Pats.  Denver, SF or Seattle etc could easily do they same.  The player gets good money short-term, out of unworkable deal, and has the chance to rake it in the next year.  

    Most players are working on much shorter deals.  The L-T deals are myths.  It's smart for the player, agent and team. Revis structured his deal so they can't franchise him.  They can work an extension, but they aren't brining him in for 2015 under those terms. 

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    Yeah, yeah, but you're ignoring the most important thing. You must find any possible reason you can to find fault with the GM, even if it means making stuff up out of totally irrelevant speculation. If our GM is doing it or even considering it, or even if someone is just speculating that it's possible that he might do it (as with Jackson), then it's irresponsible and a sign of incompetence and inhumanity, and he should be fired.

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    Well obviously, and if he does due diligence and it doesn't work out then he really stinks. 

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    Actually, I think he should be fired because someone on a message board said he could sign Jackson to a one year deal, if he wanted to. I mean enough is enough.

     
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    Re: New Development Which Could Help Patriots Land DeSean Jackson....

    Well...he's best suited to the NY JETS now anyways since they signed RON MEXICO at QB...a gimpy legged dog abuser and a boneheaded self absobed nutjob...a great combination made just perfectly for NYC!

    Stay away from this moron...he actually stated in the locker room after the Eagles last game that he was due a raise in his contract that he just signed the year before...that's all you ever get from the guy, "I WANT MORE MONEY!!!...the team, the locker room, doesn't need this...he'll NEVER be a Pat.

     
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    In response to Paul_K's comment:
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    Just a prediction:  BB hates short, fast receivers.  Worse, Brady can't throw the ball 50 yards with any accuracy, especially not in Foxboro's December winds, although he can consistently nail those 6 yard passes right on the money.

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    So what's the prediction? All I see here is some sarcasm and the obvious. 

     
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    Well...he's best suited to the NY JETS now anyways since they signed RON MEXICO at QB...a gimpy legged dog abuser and a boneheaded self absobed nutjob...a great combination made just perfectly for NYC!

    Stay away from this moron...he actually stated in the locker room after the Eagles last game that he was due a raise in his contract that he just signed the year before...that's all you ever get from the guy, "I WANT MORE MONEY!!!...the team, the locker room, doesn't need this...he'll NEVER be a Pat.

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    I wouldn't say never Melly. Most people said Revis would never sign with NE. I'm not a huge Jackson fan but I will say he's got one skillset that the other Pats don't have. He is flat out fast!  McCourty or Boyce are the only players on the Pats roster that might catch him. 

     
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    In response to mellymel3's comment:
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    Well...he's best suited to the NY JETS now anyways since they signed RON MEXICO at QB...a gimpy legged dog abuser and a boneheaded self absobed nutjob...a great combination made just perfectly for NYC!

    Stay away from this moron...he actually stated in the locker room after the Eagles last game that he was due a raise in his contract that he just signed the year before...that's all you ever get from the guy, "I WANT MORE MONEY!!!...the team, the locker room, doesn't need this...he'll NEVER be a Pat.

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    I wouldn't say never Melly. Most people said Revis would never sign with NE. I'm not a huge Jackson fan but I will say he's got one skillset that the other Pats don't have. He is flat out fast!  McCourty or Boyce are the only players on the Pats roster that might catch him. 

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    Don't sign him...I don't think he fits here...he's talented, but so are alot of other guys who are who would never fit in here...he's a never ending source of troubles...

    Let me ask a question...if he's so good, especially in an all out, open field type Off. like the Eagles, why do they want to dump him?

     
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    Why is it sad?  The fact the Patriots can do this proves the following things:  

    - That the Patriots are a winning franchise year in and year out, players know at least if they sign with the Pats they are going to make the playoffs which only helps their rep.  Most teams can't say that.    (A GM should be fired for this -- why because they're in the playoffs each year.)  

    - That the Patriots have built a solid roster, where they aren't relying on the troubled player to come in and save the franchise.   Perfect example Chad Johnson and Albert Haynesworth, had they become dominate forces we may have won a couple Superbowls, but they're lack of production didn't keep the Patriots from being a contender.  Low risk - high reward.

    - The BB and the leaders in the locker room are strong enough to handle players with baggage.  That's the problem around the league with most teams.  The Head Coach isn't proven enough and the locker room doesn't have leaders who can stop these cancers from spreading.  

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    Good post.

    But I don't think we should sign Jackson to any kind of deal. Rather invest in a move TE.

     
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    TE's are short yardage, we need to spread the field, in every direction. Speed kills. Need a Stanley Morgan, in his prime.

    He'll spread the field and take out defenders, and do nothing. While others prosper.

     
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    TE's are short yardage, we need to spread the field, in every direction. Speed kills. Need a Stanley Morgan, in his prime.

    He'll spread the field and take out defenders, and do nothing. While others prosper.

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    I do agree with the speed kills statement, I just don't see it being Jackson...not at his price or with the baggage.

    I do want a player who's speed scares teams, I think that adds so much to an offense. It opens things up, it changes things. You don't always have to throw to them, but they do make a difference on that field. Look at a guy like Jackson, when he's out there he scares the hell out of secondaries. 

     
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    Jackson would have to be willing to sign for peanuts, is he at that point in his life?

    The move tight end could be a good thing to look at in the draft, BB will take the best player available based on who is sitting there and I could see them replacing Hernandez with a mid/late round pick there.

     
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    TE's are short yardage, we need to spread the field, in every direction. Speed kills. Need a Stanley Morgan, in his prime.

    He'll spread the field and take out defenders, and do nothing. While others prosper.

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    To have a down field threat, wouldn't we have to be able to throw the ball deep? That isn't really our offense, and the only time it was our offense was due entirely to our shty GM acquiring the best big play receiver in NFL history for a 4rth round draft pick.

     
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    The Eagles are reportedly willing to release Jackson if he can't be traded.  Unless some team is willing to break the bank for Jackson (which is suspect since the Eagles are willing to dump him) he might have to take a one year deal to reprove himself to the league.       

    If Jackson came to New England for a one year deal with tons of incentives, he could easily have a 1,400 yard 15 TD season, especially playing with a great QB for the first time in his career.   If he showed big numbers and a winning attitude, he'd rehit the market next season at 28 (still in the prime of his career) and could land a massive contract for a team needing a number one WR.   Plus it's also a WR talented draft, which may also prevent other teams from breaking the bank this late in FA on Jackson.  

     

     




    hi Russ...yet again

     
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    Re: New Development Which Could Help Patriots Land DeSean Jackson....

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    Isn't it, in a way, rather sad that we have to view signings as one year things?  A prove yourself here for one year so you can move on and get real money, for your prime years, somewhere else.

    GM's who operate this way should be fired because that's a chitty long term business plan.

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    I know...I mean, look at the past 13 years...

     
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    Isn't it, in a way, rather sad that we have to view signings as one year things?  A prove yourself here for one year so you can move on and get real money, for your prime years, somewhere else.

    GM's who operate this way should be fired because that's a chitty long term business plan.

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    I know...I mean, look at the past 13 years...

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    Don't you get it?  That's only because of Tom Brady, otherwise the team is one gigantic roster of suck.

     
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    Re: New Development Which Could Help Patriots Land DeSean Jackson....

    The only way I would take this guy is on an incentive-laden contract with some reasonable milestones that make sure he gets paid based on whether he's working out or not.  I think he would work out here on that basis, and BB isn't about to let him hold all the cards.  He seems like a me-first guy to me from afar, and I'm not sure that's what we need here long term.  In the short term, sure, I'd take a shot.  I doubt it happens, but it's interesting to ponder the possibilities. 

    Re: the one year deal and that being a bad way to build the roster -- bollocks.  If they can get a talented guy here on a deal that favours the team you do it.  Will they have to have one less Kenbrell Thompkins on their roster to make it happen?  You can find a KT any time you want.   

     
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