Re: New Development Which Could Help Patriots Land DeSean Jackson....
posted at 3/24/2014 7:31 PM EDT
In response to tcal2-'s comment:
In response to ma6dragon9's comment:
Those guys started playing together in 1996 (Mcginest 94, Law/Ted 95, Tedy 96, thanks Parcells)...and didn't win until 2001 under Belichick.
Every single one of them played, and lost, in that Super Bowl against Green Bay. Every one of them played under Carrol as the team went from SB contender to 8-8 middling nothing team. Every one of them became HOFers under Belichick, and got their rings.
<begin sarcasm font>In Truth...Matt Light was the key to every Super Bowl victory. After Armstrong retired, he got drafted, and held down LT for a young, inexperienced, game managing QB.<end sarcasm font>
The facts simply do not support your hatred of BB the GM.
OK, but let's filter your statement a bit and say none of them including BB won until Tom Brady showed up in 2001.
It's funny how there's a handfull of posters out there (not say you are one) who don't get it. All's BB has to do is provide a desent Defense and we will win Super Bowls with Brady at the Offensive Helm.
That's fair...and I knew you were going there, hence my Matt Light comment.
Brady is arguably the biggest SINGLE reason for 3 titles...arguably. He didn't drive the bus in 01, 03 and 04 are very much up for discussion.
The only other single factor who was as big, or bigger with regards to winning rings was BB.
Without BB making a very difficult, often unpopular choice of sitting his 100mil Franchise QB (who had JUST SIGNED that deal!) for a kid who, at that time, had showed little more than the ability to limit turnovers, and throw short and fast.
It's kind of been lost in history, but BB made an extremely controversial decision, in season that provided a LOT of distractions to this team...for those of us who remember it well (I was 21 and remember every fking moment of that magical season) Brady/Bledsoe was a RAGING debate for the entire second half of the season, into the playoffs, and right up to the Super Bowl opening kickoff. Maybe it was his adept handling of that situation that got the players to buy in from that point on, without question. At any rate, that was an exceptional display of what good coaching, and managing, can do. That could have destroyed this team, and maybe nobody ever realizes how good they were. QB controversies have destroyed many teams.
Did Brady "arrive" in 2001? Or did Belichick "deliver" him?
I honestly don't think one would have had the success without the other. Nevermind Welker, or Amendola, or Branch when he left...do people remember Milloy in 2003? Brady and Milloy lived in neighboring condos in Quincy at the time. They were VERY BEST of friends. Brady was outspoked about how "P I S S E D" he was. Said some angry things about the team and BB. But, as usual, BB was proven right. Since then, Brady shares his opinions on people, but he does not go nearly as far as he did in 2003...because, I think, he knows BB will make the right choice. It's not always the popular choice. It's not always the choice that serves Brady, personally, the best. But it is what's best for the team.
Don't take for granted for hard it is to make those 2 decisions above. Many coaches (Rex Ryan for example) don't stand up for what they believe in, and the team falls apart when things don't go exactly right because the coach doesn't have the spine to RUN HIS TEAM.
Belichick isn't perfect, not even close. I can't imagine what a perfect GM would be...Seattle's last 3 drafts +Elways past 2 offseasons with a sprinkling of Dmitroff's talent evaluation, and a healthy helping of Belichick's cold-hearted business attitude...I guess that would be pretty close.
Pioli/Dmitroff/Tannenbaum were a GMs DREAM TEAM! Tannenbaum is a salary cap master who was a little over his head in NY but will make a good GM soon, and Dmitroff and Pioli are the 2 best talent evaluators, to me, in the league right now. The Pats employed ALL of them in the early 2000s, and the benefits are unmistakeable. It's hard to replace that kind of talent, nevermind the lower level management, and coordinators they continually lost for about 5 straight seasons.
The job BB has done in constructing this TEAM, from the players, to coaches, to management...is really nothing short of exemplary. His coaching/management tree will dwarf all those before him by the time he's done.