New England Draft Needs

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    New England Draft Needs

    For me, the biggest draft needs for the NE Patriots is at WR. None of the WRs from last year were both dependable and can get seperation down the field. What are your thoughts on Pat's needs. Check out  http://prodraftanalysis.com and http://prodraftanalysis.com/NEPatriots.html for a breakdown of NE Patriots needs. 

     
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    A big outside WR is a need but not the top to me.

    DT, OG, C, SS, TE all trump it

     
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    Evans from Texas A&M or Benjamin from Florida State  . .  . trade up to get one of them (round 1) . . .  their 1st and their 4th picks.

    Rest of the picks to get TE (round 2), a backup LB (4th round), Offensive Line (round 6), DE (round 3), and Mettenberger in the 6th round from LSU (put him on IR this year as he is recovering from ACL and he will be Tom's backup in 2015 when Mallett leaves) and a RB in round 7.

     

     
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    I am sorry. I do not buy this at all. I will grant you that it would be great to have a top flight #1 WR. No argument. But if you watched the Patriots when they won 3 SBs they did not have one. THey had a very good Troy Grown who was a possession WR with some nice open field moves. THey had Branch who was sort of a jack of all trades master of none. THey had Patten who had some speed and was respectably dependable but was third target at best and they had Givens who was a tough strong dependable guy.

    Now they have Julian - a good slot guy, not special but dependable and with some nice after the catch potential. THey have Amendola who, even if you dont like that he was hurt, is a very good WR. They have THREE guys who were rookies last year. Dobson showed signs of being a very good player. Thompkins came out of nowhere and looked a little like a somewhat decent version of a young Branch - jack of all trades master of none. And Boyce who has the most speed of the three looked like he had some upside but was not as dependable as the other two.

    Most of the very good WRs in this league do not have standout rookie seasons. It is how it is. THere are exceptions. But not often, not many. Take Cobb in GB. He had a WHOPPING 25 catches his rookie year - while showing some skills, some ability. He had a breakout season. The story is repeated many times. So I am happy we have two guys going into their 2nd year who showed some real signs and one guy who at least showed some speed and did not look like an embarrassment (as some of the speed merchants we have had here have done).

    On top of that we have Gronk and Vereen.

    So yes it would be nice to have Moss or Stanley Morgan or Harold Jackson for that matter. But it is not something I would put ahead of DT, DE, LB, C, G or TE.

    I will add you could make a much better case for a TE (preferably an in line TE but also a move TE) as Gronk is the only guy on the roster who is any good at all. SO when he is out we have a REAL problem. Plus we fo not have the advantage of a REAL double TE formation.

    So I just do not buy into the WR focus. I get wanting a GREAT game changer. But I think we would have a better type of a team if we a had a game changer on the DL to add to what we have there now.Or perhaps if you could find a game changing LB to add to the three good LBs we have (do you have an extra Tippett or LT in your pocket).

     

     
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    IMO the biggest draft needs are to get a DE / DT or a linebacker who can generate a pass rush. The next biggest need is to get a mauler at center or right guard who can open holes for the running game and give Brady a clean pocket. 

    Add a TE and RB to the list also.

     

     

     

     
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    cost efficient, overlooked gems in the 2nd & 3rd & 4th Rds.  Massive diamonds of uncut potential, their hidden & unsurpassable beauty, immpecably apparent in lustre & insurmountable granduosity, If for just that brilliantly skilled & dedicated works & days of hands from a great & worthy Gemist.

    After that, Special-Teams Players & Specialists, the resta the way on down-long snappers, kick returners, gunners on the punt team, place holders for the field goal kicker, 3rd string wildcat QBs with acutely superb clipboard understandings & knowledge of schematics, etc., etc.

     
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    Needs in order IMO

    1. TE

    2. OL

    3. LB

    4. DL

    5. RB

    6. Developmental QB

     
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    In response to LazarusintheSanatorium's comment:
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    cost efficient, overlooked gems in the 2nd & 3rd & 4th Rds.  Massive diamonds of uncut potential, their hidden & unsurpassable beauty, immpecably apparent in lustre & insurmountable granduosity, If for just that brilliantly skilled & dedicated works & days of hands from a great & worthy Gemist.

    After that, Special-Teams Players & Specialists, the resta the way on down-long snappers, kick returners, gunners on the punt team, place holders for the field goal kicker, 3rd string wildcat QBs with acutely superb clipboard understandings & knowledge of schematics, etc., etc.

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    ^ Follow this model?  =Hoisting the Lombardi in '15...gu-ar-anteeed.

     
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    Check out prodraftanalysis.com

    They have a pretty good breakdown of New England's needs.

     
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    In response to portfolio1's comment:
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    I am sorry. I do not buy this at all. I will grant you that it would be great to have a top flight #1 WR. No argument. But if you watched the Patriots when they won 3 SBs they did not have one. THey had a very good Troy Grown who was a possession WR with some nice open field moves. THey had Branch who was sort of a jack of all trades master of none. THey had Patten who had some speed and was respectably dependable but was third target at best and they had Givens who was a tough strong dependable guy.

    ...... 

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    Bingo

     
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    ^  That's The Pats Offense that worked, played to beat other team, enforced their game tempo, broke The Will of the opposing teams, complimented and made NE's D look amazing and act ferocious and always energized and fresh, and beat up on the things the opposing team attempted to do to adjust to it.

    Because:  NE's & the Offenses & Brady's favorite target to pass to was=The Open one, not the most talented 1.

    Because:  NE's & the Offenses & Brady's favorite choice of play-calling and play-direction and play-type was=The One which best exploited the Defense's weakness at that exact moment, NOT the one which best illustrated NE's strengths at that moment. 

    It was THE most:  Balanced, Multi-directional, and Multi-dimensional...and had THE least weaknesses in it's Balance, Multi-directional capabilities, and Multi-Dimensions.

    No "favorites" whatsoever of:  Personell, Play-calling, Scheme, Time, -Makes for a very tough thing to take down defensively.  "Favoritism"  changed by game, by drive, by play, by...ANYthing getting production from anyTHING that was working, right then.  Adaptable, Malleable, Balanced in it's threat/dimensions/scheme/personell/play-calling/play-direction/changeability, In a: "I don't give a sh-#t, whatever is getting the job actually done, RIGHT now, mindset."  =That is a tough thing to defend against...ya may score alot...ya may score a little...but ya DO beat the guy on the other side doing this...and so ya usually Win...and ya usually come out on top verses the better/tougher opponents in the bigger games.

    It works.

     
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    Wr, DT/DE, TE, OT in that order. 

     
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    ILB-DT-WR/TE-G/Center-Safety-Tackle-DE

     
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    DT

    DE

    TE

    C

    CB

     
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    If any of these three are still available at #29 they are virtual lock: Benjamin, Pryor, or the combo of ND D-linemen Tuitt/NixIII. See how I wored the extra player in..

     
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    In response to OlderbutWiser's comment:
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    DT

    DE

    TE

    C

    CB

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    This except I'd trade the cb for OL.   If we don't have a pass rush this year it will be another disappointment in the playoffs. 

     
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    In response to OlderbutWiser's comment:
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    DT

    DE

    TE

    C

    CB

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    who replaces Spikes and Fletcher?

     
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    Apologies to do those who do but I see absolutely zero need to draft a w/r in any of the first 3 rounds.  Pats needs include, IMO, TE, OG, DT, LB in that order.

     
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    In response to Bradysgirlforreal's comment:
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    In response to OlderbutWiser's comment:
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    DT

    DE

    TE

    C

    CB

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    who replaces Spikes and Fletcher?

    [/QUOTE]

    Mayo and Hightower 

     
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    IMO the biggest draft needs are to get a DE / DT or a linebacker who can generate a pass rush. The next biggest need is to get a mauler at center or right guard who can open holes for the running game and give Brady a clean pocket. 

    Add a TE and RB to the list also.

     

     

     

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    ^this....

    gotta address the OL, DL/DE/DT/OLB, TE

    IMO, you address the receiving issues with another solid TE

     
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    BB often drafts based on future needs as well as present needs.  I would expect to see a RB taken early as Ridley and Vereen are FA next year.  The OL and DL are obvious needs so they may get ignored.  I would assume another CB will be drafted.  I do not see BB picking in the first round.  I expect a trade down as there is a lot of mid round talent to be had.  I would love to see Mosely in the first round but think he will be gone early.  I am not sold on NIX or Tuitt.  The TE class seems weak and should be available in the mid rounds.

     
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    I think the biggest need on this team is the offensive line. I know the rebuttal will be that they are returning all five starters, but an offensive line is like the roof on your house - you don't want to wait until it starts sagging/leaking to fix it. 

    T - Solder and Vollmer are a solid duo of bookends, but both have been dinged up in the past (concussion and leg respectively). Currently, the Pats lack a true swing tackle that could fill in for a significant portion of the season. Cannon is a better guard in my opinion and could never play on the left side.

    G - Mankins is tough as nails and productive, but is getting up there in age and his play has slipped a bit - especially in big games. Connolly is an average player and his versatility to play center or guard is the only thing keeping him on the roster. Cannon can play some guard, but I definitely think some quality talent could be added to this group.

    C - Wendell was resigned for a reasonable amount for the next two seasons, but he has been inconsistent. After a great year in 2012, he struggled last year in 2013. He lacks the size to handle big defensive tackles and was a sieve in pass protection - doesn't sound like a good center to me. Some competition is needed here.

    I know that the Pats have Kline, Cave, Cannon, and Mattes in the fold. They could also bring Svitek or Zucevics (or whatever his name was). 

    With Brady being as immobile as they come, we need to keep him upright. Without Dante here this season that job is only more difficult. We would be wise to bring in some quality young players to provide some depth behind our starters. I'm not advocating spending a first round pick on the OL, but I would definitely double dip in the mid-rounds on this unit. 

    Some OL predicted to go in Rounds 2-6...

    Joel Bitonio

    Seantrel Henderson

    Mike Schofield

    David Yankey

    Russ Bodine

    Chris Watt

    Spencer Long

    Travis Swanson

    Bryan Stork

    Tyler Larsen

     
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    I disagree.  While having a elite WR would be great, I wouldn't spend a draft pick on one in the first few rounds unless a top one inexplicably fell to us like a stone simply because I belive there are much greater needs in other areas. 

     

     

     
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    In response to Archer1's comment:
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    I think the biggest need on this team is the offensive line. I know the rebuttal will be that they are returning all five starters, but an offensive line is like the roof on your house - you don't want to wait until it starts sagging/leaking to fix it. 

    T - Solder and Vollmer are a solid duo of bookends, but both have been dinged up in the past (concussion and leg respectively). Currently, the Pats lack a true swing tackle that could fill in for a significant portion of the season. Cannon is a better guard in my opinion and could never play on the left side.

    G - Mankins is tough as nails and productive, but is getting up there in age and his play has slipped a bit - especially in big games. Connolly is an average player and his versatility to play center or guard is the only thing keeping him on the roster. Cannon can play some guard, but I definitely think some quality talent could be added to this group.

    C - Wendell was resigned for a reasonable amount for the next two seasons, but he has been inconsistent. After a great year in 2012, he struggled last year in 2013. He lacks the size to handle big defensive tackles and was a sieve in pass protection - doesn't sound like a good center to me. Some competition is needed here.

    I know that the Pats have Kline, Cave, Cannon, and Mattes in the fold. They could also bring Svitek or Zucevics (or whatever his name was). 

    With Brady being as immobile as they come, we need to keep him upright. Without Dante here this season that job is only more difficult. We would be wise to bring in some quality young players to provide some depth behind our starters. I'm not advocating spending a first round pick on the OL, but I would definitely double dip in the mid-rounds on this unit. 

    Some OL predicted to go in Rounds 2-6...

    Joel Bitonio

    Seantrel Henderson

    Mike Schofield

    David Yankey

    Russ Bodine

    Chris Watt

    Spencer Long

    Travis Swanson

    Bryan Stork

    Tyler Larsen

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    If they go with OL at 29 my preference would be Yankey.... Big, physical with a little bit of nastiness tossed in.

     

     
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    OL and DL depth

     
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