i said this after day 2 of the draft, the pats are going to use the picks bb wheeled and dealed for in the 2012 draft to get one of the 2 elite lb/olb players in the league, lamar woodley or tamba hali, i think he prefers players in that position to be prooven in the league rather than drafting a college prospect (watt,jordan,quinn etc) bb knows they need a rush cmon guys who are you kidding. when they use the picks on hali or woodley everybody here hating on this draft will feel dumb and he will proove why he is the best coach in the league once again.

I say 28, which is the same spot we traded.  It would take monumental underachieving for this to be anywhere in the top half.

The Bags are about to return to New Orleans, top 10 baby.

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It only takes one injury to Drew Brees to make the pick worth gold. We all know what happens when that happen.

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angel pick #22 means that they made the playoffs so you can't say that they will just miss the playoffs and then say their pick is going to be in the playoff teams picks. Picks 1-20 are non-playoff and picks 21-32 are playoff

BTW there's only been 2 teams with 11-5 records who have never made the playoffs so if they have a 10-6 or 11-5 team then odds are they are making the playoffs again.

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The NO pick we got this year in trade will be leveraged for an additional #2 next year as they trade the NO pick to some other team in next years draft for a #1in 2013 and their # 2 in 2012...just like they've been doing in recent years....they will never actually pick someone with that pick.

I'm basing my prediction of the Saints being either 10-6 or 11-5 and still missing the playoffs due to the fact that teams like Seattle and Arizona because of their weak division has made the playoffs over teams with more wins.  Furthermore teams like Dallas and Minnesotta wont be bad teams like year (both were abberations, I think both will contend for the playoffs).

The Saints will have their hands full trying to beat out either Atlanta or Tampa Bay for the division title.  Then factor in other tough matchups in Green Bay, Chicago, Indianapolis, and potentially Detroit (who I think are getting really good in a hurry) provided that Stafford can stay healthy this season, and the Saints could very easily finish with the kind of record that I predicted above.

Again, unless they win their division outright which is NOT a given at this point, then I'm wondering if a record of 10-6 or 11-5 nets them a wild card spot over teams like the Vikings, Giants or Cowboys.  Maybe my math was off previously by projecting their pick at #22, but I'm sticking with my original prediction of the Saints missing the playoffs because I having them losing via tie breakers.

I'm not sure if this trade is genius.  All we earned was a 2nd rounder.  People are very excited that we picked up a first rounder, but we also lost a 1st rounder.  So I'm not sure what the big deal is.

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All we earned was a free second? Are you kidding? Second round picks are like gold, that's were the value picks come in. Alot of teams would be happy for at least one free high pick, we've been picking up free picks every year. Heck, we've come out of this with a new first and second round pick for next year. I'm happy!

The Saints reflect the Pats in many ways.  The top thing is no pass rush and they didn't get it in the draft like many think.   This was not a good drafting class.
The Saints have a tough schedule and will have to win it with the offense.  That offense is real good so they can win most of their games.  If the offense doesn't show up though it's going to be a long day.  The Pats should improve on the #28 spot that they traded in hopfully a better draft class.  That's the gamble. 

two relatively late firsts next year. at the end of the day it doesnt matter though... BB will take the guys he wants. and he will move up/down accordingly. no sense in trying to project.

My power ranking numbers say #20.  New Orleans failed against Seattle, not because Seattle is any good (They stank to high heaven for most of last season!) but because N.O. had its own issues.

They play in a good division and their opponents are getting better. A lot will depend on a key group of players. THeir OL has to pick it up. Either Ingram has to be the real deal (he might be but he has to do it) or Thomas has to return to form.

Wondering if their D will handle the pass well this year.

Bottom line is they should be expected to make the playoffs and so the pick should be in the bottom 8 or so but in this league a team can falter quickly.