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    NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:10 PM EDT

    The league is thinking about doing this what say you?
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:18 PM EDT

    No. Plain and simple no.

    This is just wrong. There is too much that happens in a very short span of time. It will end up sapping the little "football" that is remaining in the game.

    And also, I don't think the NFL is seriously considering it. I haven't heard one official person (please inform me if it happened) say this. The only thing that I heard was Rodney Harrison saying that if you want to stop hits like T.J.s etc, you need to suspend people, because he (for instance) would put aside $50,000 at the beginning of the season and chalk it up to cost of doing business. 
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:23 PM EDT

    This is from ESPN.com:

    NEW YORK -- The NFL could soon start suspending players for dangerous helmet-to-helment hits, vice president of football operations Ray Anderson told The Associated Press on Monday.

    A day after several scary collisions in Sunday's games, Anderson acknowledged the league might need to do more than fining players to prevent such hits.

     
     "There's strong testimonial for looking readily at evaluating discipline, especially in the areas of egregious and elevated dangerous hits," he said in a phone interview. "Going forward there are certain hits that occurred that will be more susceptible to suspension. There are some that could bring suspensions for what are flagrant and egregious situations."

    Anderson said the NFL could make changes in its approach immediately, with Commissioner Roger Goodell having the final say. League officials will consult with the union, but he didn't expect any opposition.

    The Eagles' DeSean Jackson and the Falcons' Dunta Robinson were knocked out of their game Sunday after a frightening helmet-to-helmet collision, while Steelers linebacker James Harrison sidelined two Browns players with head injuries after jarring hits.

    Anderson wouldn't speculate on how any players would be punished for hits from Sunday's games.

    "The fundamentally old way of wrapping up and tackling seems to have faded away," he said. "A lot of the increase is from hits to blow guys up. That has become a more popular way of doing it. Yes, we are concerned they are getting away from the fundamentals of tackling, and maybe it has been coached that way. We're going to have to look into talking to our coaches."

     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:25 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits:
    No. Plain and simple no. This is just wrong. There is too much that happens in a very short span of time. It will end up sapping the little "football" that is remaining in the game. And also, I don't think the NFL is seriously considering it. I haven't heard one official person (please inform me if it happened) say this. The only thing that I heard was Rodney Harrison saying that if you want to stop hits like T.J.s etc, you need to suspend people, because he (for instance) would put aside $50,000 at the beginning of the season and chalk it up to cost of doing business. 
    Posted by zbellino


    Agreed, ZB. This isn't tennis or golf, it's an all-out, split-second decision, contact sport. Far more guys will get injured when they have to start playing tentatively.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:26 PM EDT

    NFL ready to start suspending players for helmet-to-helmet hits

    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 18, 2010 12:44 PM ET
    Sunday's cavalcade of helmet-to-helmet hits could inspire real change in how such penalties are policed moving forward.

    NFL vice president Ray Anderson told the The Associated Press the league may start suspending players for dangerous helmet-to-helmet hits.  (They are listening to Rodney Harrison apparently.)

    The change could take place immediatley. "Going forward there are certain hits that occurred that will be more susceptible to suspension," Anderson said.

    The league could go even further after the season.

    "[Anderson] said NFL could change rules after the season to ban all hits with helmets," Judy Battista of the New York Times relays.

    So who could be suspended?  Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather, Steelers linebacker James Harrison, and Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson would seem to be in the most danger. Robinson would be an especially tough hit to police because of where he made contact with Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson.

    Anderson says he can handle any criticism.

    "If we've got to face the backlash of those who say we're making the game too soft,then so be it," he told the New York Times.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:31 PM EDT

    IMO in a one on one situation no, but in a play like the Meriweather play who was the second hitter then yes (I love the hit) he has to lead with the shoulder then.

    * I believe there's a rule already in place for this.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:33 PM EDT

    Every person has the right to work in an environment where others arn't purposely trying to cause Brain Injury's to them.

    Why it took so long to actually get to the point of considering suspension is what puzzles me.

    They (NFL Offices) must of been listening to Rodney last night when he said suspension would be the only deterrent that would of made him stop.

     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 1:40 PM EDT

    This is going to bring a lot of grey area as to intention and not but I say do it. If it brings down the amount of hits to the head that players take then I'm all for it.

    Of course you have to find a place to draw the line. I do believe Meriweathers hit should be one of those suspension plays but where a O player is trying to duck or make a play and in the speed of the game it happens well that type of incidental contact shouldn't be suspended.

    The reason I think Meriweather's hit was intentional was because not only did he spear but he was coming in at an angle then angled his head further to a position where the blow would come at the place with the most padding in his helmet. It's simple you don't lead into a player like that helmet first and not expect to hit him hard with it. If you are going to hit him hard they are taught to "stand up" and lead with your shoulder not to lead head first.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 2:01 PM EDT

    I tend to agree that on some plays bone crunching helmet hits are gonna happen.  The game is too fast to stop guys from thinking before they hit.  Merriweather is trying to set the physical tone, and I like that, but the helmet to helmet hit on Heap was just stupid, and he clearly was looking to mete out a bit of pain.  Guys will do it until it means they lose a game check, and I'm sure Rodney Harrison's gamechecks were prorated for the penalty fines he knew he'd accrue.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 3:12 PM EDT

    NO There's too much grey area.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 3:16 PM EDT

    Maybe they should fine both the coaches and the players. Suspension is an extreme penalty. If the coaches are going to be disciplined -- and I mean both the head coach and the defensive coordinator -- their attention will be focused on teaching and stressing wrapping up rather than just hitting. Football is a violent game, but it shouldn't need to be played in such a way that concussion and brain damage are inevitable.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 4:43 PM EDT

    Roger Goodell should have a meeting with James Harrison of the Steelers. Yes, Merriweather did something I deplore but, Harrison seems to be full out wanting to hurt people. 


    I never liked this thug. 

    If the NFL wants to come down on this stuff then where were the refs on both these hits?


    Harrison seems to enjoy looking down on Massaquoi after he cheap shots him. I love hard hitting players. I love football but, guys like Harrison who openly admit to wanting to hurt players? This is the kind of thing the NFL needs to clean up right now. Just what we need, young kids wanting to be like Harrison. He could care less about sportsmanship, he wants to be a thug. 

    P.O.S. if you ask me. 


     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 4:47 PM EDT

    I think they have to if football is going to survive as a sport. If the league doesn't take measures to stop the frequency of concussions, the federal government or a major lawsuit eventually will. 
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 5:02 PM EDT

    mrbungle - I agree. I think what Meriweather did was just stupid and he'll learn not to do it. I have a feeling that BB will pull him aside and have a chat. I know BB didn't look to happy on the sidelines and if it weren't for Page getting hurt I don't think you would have seen Meriweather on the field for the rest of the game (minus 3 S sets). I also kinda think the Lewis hit on Edelman was in response to Meriweathers hit.

    Harrison (Pit) though goes out every game with intent to injure, imo. To many times you watch him lead with his helmet or go low on runs. Him and Smith both go after players and I don't like that style of game.

    I love big hits but there is a right and wrong way to do it. Rodney and Chung hit hard but lead with their shoulders and never towards the players head.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 5:19 PM EDT

    They should only suspend somebody if they don't play for the Patriots. Furthermore I've made a little drinking game out of it. Everytime Meriweather launches and spears somebody I'm going to do a shot. If he knocks somebody out or makes them release their bowels on the field it's boilermaker time.
    That's Football Baby.NFL Style.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 5:21 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits:
    Every person has the right to work in an environment where others arn't purposely trying to cause Brain Injury's to them. Why it took so long to actually get to the point of considering suspension is what puzzles me. They (NFL Offices) must of been listening to Rodney last night when he said suspension would be the only deterrent that would of made him stop.
    Posted by Tcal2


    +1..We're outnumbered on this topic. I'm actually pretty surprised at the support he's got.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 5:36 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits:
    In Response to Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits : +1..We're outnumbered on this topic. I'm actually pretty surprised at the support he's got.
    Posted by ewhite1065


    Puzzling e.  I guess not many of the posters here have ever taken a cheap shot.  Let me drill them as they are walking to the coffee machine, at work, and lets see if they change their view when the headaches finally go away a week later.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/18/2010 5:53 PM EDT

    i support suspensions for helmet to helmet on QBs and recievers in a defensless act.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/19/2010 9:14 AM EDT

    I saw Trent Dilfer say that these hits should be reviewable?? come on. Let 'em play and let the refs do their job.

    Now the league now wants to outlaw devastating hits...come on man start passing out the skirts.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/19/2010 9:57 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits:
    Every person has the right to work in an environment where others arn't purposely trying to cause Brain Injury's to them. Why it took so long to actually get to the point of considering suspension is what puzzles me. They (NFL Offices) must of been listening to Rodney last night when he said suspension would be the only deterrent that would of made him stop.
    Posted by Tcal2


    This may be the best thing you ever posted Tcal2--and you've posted a lot of good things before.

    The NFL is going to do something about this because allowing serious brain damage to occur will be:
    1. Ethically wrong
    2. Bad for the game, since star players will be permanently disabled and unable to play
    3. An obstacle to expanding the schedule and therefore a drag on revenue
    4. A public relations nightmare
    5. A huge legal risk, and
    6. An excuse for the government to regulate the NFL or even suspend play

    The NFL is a big business and no big business is going to risk all of the above.  Yeah, big hits are part of what makes the game exciting, but the NFL won't survive if they don't do something to limit the damage to players.   
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/19/2010 10:07 AM EDT

    Oh bullsh!t  don't play if you're afraid. There is risk in everything. Workplaces are dangerous and you can't eliminate all risk.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/19/2010 11:30 AM EDT

    I voted "yes".

    What Merriweather did was intentional, dangerous to both players, and asinine.  It is 100% clear he launched with the aim to knock-out Heap.

    I don't think the refs should be allowed to eject the player. The league should and will suspend players.  They've done it before, just not often enough.

    No player should have to suffer brain and neck damage to play the game.  It's a great game without the cheap shots to the head.
     

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    Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits

    posted at 10/19/2010 11:33 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: NFL to suspend players for helmet to helmet hits:
    Z/NY Pats Fan, Are you guys serious? You think this is a good part of the game? You guys must have loved the Rutgers game Saturday then right? Just because you see a trend of increasing rules and restrictions being put into the game doesn't mean you hold onto something that should have never been allowed without suspension. If you want to take another look at defensive PI, or many other questionable rules that changed the game go for it but don't back something that can hurt someone for life like Saturday.
    Posted by Sam-Adams


    Sam,

    Concussions are a part of my entertainment.








    JK!
     

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