NFL wants HGH testing!

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    NFL wants HGH testing!

    Guess there will be no football in 2011?

    Thoughts?
     
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    NFL wants everything their way and they have no leverage for it.
     
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    NFL players

    From the owners and the league to the players...

    -- take this test or you'll all be deamed frauds in the court of public opinion.

    You may think this hurts the league but the roid allegations helped baseball get back on the map...

     
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    Letting roids run wild in baseball killed the sport. They need this testing or they will eventually run into the same issues baseball did. An entire lost generation of records and so forth that have no value. The coveted home run record is meaningless. 
     
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    they should do testing on an olympic level.. you get as much as Brady does he should give blood and pee in a cup every month.
     
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    Heaven forbid the owners want to stop something that could have negative long term affects on the players health which will cost more money for retired players benefits.....ROFL  I couldn't hold it any longer
     
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    [QUOTE]Letting roids run wild in baseball killed the sport. They need this testing or they will eventually run into the same issues baseball did. An entire lost generation of records and so forth that have no value. The coveted home run record is meaningless. 
    Posted by Macrawn[/QUOTE]

    Misreading the NFL headline, Already 1 QB has stepped over the picket line after the Front Offices granted Mark Sanchez's personal petition to be in charge of the hemorrhoid testing, personally. 
     
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    you are all acting like they are not fully aware of the drugs in the game.

    The Chargers whole team was on the juice in 1963... NFL or HBO one of them made a documentary on it.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3866837

    The Steelers were considered the juiced team in the 70's and 80's.

    Grown azz men don't get bigger and stronger every year working out 24/7.

    Maybe they gain 5 pounds a year but these kids gain 20 pounds a year getting rocked up like professional body builders in college and they continue to grow in the pro while they rack up records.

    Steelers
    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_328813.html

    We all know they are on the juice

    This is a low blow by the owners to gain control.
     
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    Wasn't this a given going in?  I think the NFL needs to make a decision and they did.

    Rodney was suspended for simply buying it, yet they don't test for it?

    How does that make any sense? Either sh*t or get off the pot.

    And you just know the public isn't going to buy any union spin on this one, i.e., "we want to protect our privacy" or "we want to make sure it's done correctly".

    lol

    Wake up, union and welcome to earth and reality.

     
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    [QUOTE]NFL wants everything their way and they have no leverage for it.
    Posted by KyleCleric2[/QUOTE]

    No leverage?

    Yeah, I walk into work everyday with a 6 pack, a binger and then go out at lunch and scarf down 3 martinis....and then I have a business meeting with prospective clients after that.

    I do the driving.

    What planet are you on?

    The Olympics had it right from the beginning (minus the weed testing which makes no sense), and MLB had it completely wrong.

    The NFL had it right on roids in 1987, but they waited too long, even still.

    I think it's completely disingenuous to say you don't want it, the players don't want it, and then not test for it.

    A total phony backpedal by both the league and the players.  Which is it?

    Do you want to allow it, or test for it/ban it?



     
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    [QUOTE]you are all acting like they are not fully aware of the drugs in the game. The Chargers whole team was on the juice in 1963... NFL or HBO one of them made a documentary on it. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3866837 The Steelers were considered the juiced team in the 70's and 80's. Grown azz men don't get bigger and stronger every year working out 24/7. Maybe they gain 5 pounds a year but these kids gain 20 pounds a year getting rocked up like professional body builders in college and they continue to grow in the pro while they rack up records. Steelers http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_328813.html We all know they are on the juice This is a low blow by the owners to gain control.
    Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]

    Low blow?

    Dude, they suspended Rodney for BUYING it! 

    Why was he suspended?  HGH is legal with a prescription.  If a doctor simply devised a reason with a wink-wink as to why he needed it (rehabbing), he technically would have been fine in that situation, even without testing.

    Otherwise, he did nothing wrong inside the NFL walls.

    Is everyone here willing to let players use HGH, whether it is prescribed or bought off the street?

    Where does it end?
     
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    [QUOTE]Heaven forbid the owners want to stop something that could have negative long term affects on the players health which will cost more money for retired players benefits.....ROFL  I couldn't hold it any longer
    Posted by PatsEng[/QUOTE]

    The horror! 

    I love how the union constantly tries to have its cake and eat it, too.

    They're such phonies.  Where is the main concern (Healthcare for vested and retired players)?

    They got such a great deal in 2006, they forgot about Earl Campbell's medical bills.  I wonder how many card shows Earl travels to each year to try to pay for his treatment?

    Maybe Kevie Mawae can answer that one?

    The owners have conceded that aspect (from what I've read).

    It'd be a lot easier if the rules were clean and simple.  Pee in a cup at random so the league is clean. 

    MLB tap danced around this crap for 20+ years and look how many fans they lost because of it.

    Either allow it or don't allow it. Of course you have to test for it to try to enforce the fact it's not allowed by the NFL.


     
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    [QUOTE]Guess there will be no football in 2011? Thoughts?
    Posted by beavis[/QUOTE]

    On principle, I support transparency in player drug testing, but research seems to suggest that HGH use is much safer than steroids.  It just comes with a lot of bad publicity.  If I were the league and I were happy with all the athetic freaks of nature who are taking the sport to new heights, I would have never mentioned any of this because now they have the public's attention on the topic - this seems like a very short-sighted negotiating tactic.

    Put this way: if people are saying that requiring players to wear leg pads will slow down the game and make it less entertaining (an argument floated to me on a player safety board), then taking out the shadow HGH use will most definitely make the game slower, as well as tarnish the entire image of the league since they brought attention to it and now people will expect a follow-through and results.
     
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    [QUOTE]Wasn't this a given going in?  I think the NFL needs to make a decision and they did. Rodney was suspended for simply buying it, yet they don't test for it? How does that make any sense? Either sh*t or get off the pot. And you just know the public isn't going to buy any union spin on this one, i.e., "we want to protect our privacy" or "we want to make sure it's done correctly". lol Wake up, union and welcome to earth and reality.
    Posted by BBReigns[/QUOTE]


    BBReigns

    HGH is undetectable they have not created a test that is 100% fail proof right now the tests they are running still have flaws that may cause false positives.

    Why do you think the anti doping agency for the Olympics does not and cannot legally use it.
     
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    i suspect this is the one they plan on using unless they plan on collecting urine from players every day... That is how frequently you would need to do this test in order to detect the HGH hormone... The Olypics uses one, so i must retract my statement above they tested it in Beijing. Read article below... the new test can detect if you have taken it with a week or two.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-07-22-hgh-urine-test_N.htm

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NFL wants HGH testing! : BBReigns HGH is undetectable they have not created a test that is 100% fail proof right now the tests they are running still have flaws that may cause false positives. Why do you think the anti doping agency for the Olympics does not and cannot legally use it.
    Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]

    May I ask why the NFL is proposing a test for it, then?
     
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    It's called a bluff
     
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    Sorry. Not buying it when the Feds consider it illegal.  There is no bluff when they punish players for it being "illegal".
     
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    [QUOTE]It's called a bluff
    Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]

    I think they fully expect a test will be available for it before the next contract expiration. In fact they will likely contribute toward funding research for it. So it's not a bluff. 

    They want everything set in place. If they somehow come up with a test during the season there is no debate about can they test or not. They will immediately start testing. 

    Any player continuing to use it assuming that because there is not test they can't be caught is going to be proven wrong. They won't be able to get it out of their system fast enough if a test comes along mid season which I'd say is more likely than not. 
     
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    baseball. basketball , hockey and football should have standard olympic type testing. The NBA I believe wont test for pot cause there would be like 6 players in the league after. Tell me Ron Artest doesn't torch up a dube. Criminello Anthony?

    I get tested all the time.  I know that I cant do that stuff unless I want to find other employment. You go to a budweiser plant and they drug test you there. Place has ruined more lives then casinos but dont try to get in if you smoked a joint in the last 30 days.
     
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    If you're all right sign me up for clean professional sports. An NFL where the freakishly larger men cannot get more freaky YOY... We all might have had a chance if they had started this 10 years ago...
     
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    I am sure there is a very good reason for the players not supporting this proposed policy.  Anyone in the pro-player crowd want to take a stab (or should I say needle puncture) at it?
     
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    I guess the days of the 300lb Lineman and 230lb 5'8" Running Back are numbered.
     
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    PittsburHGH is screwed
     
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    Thank You! Tcal2

    Finally someone who isn't dreaming about the fact that 240 pound RB who run a 4.4 40 are natural.

    There are pro players that come around once every generation that have special skills.

    For example 
    Jim Brown, huge/fast/elusive
    Bo Jackson all of the above

    I would even consider Adrian Peterson a freak as he appears to be proportionate BUT freaky nonetheless... i beleive he may be clean??? I say this because a 6'1" man can be 225 and run fast.


    BUT NOW we have 
    Peyton Hillis??? 5'10" 250???
    Maurice Jones Drew 5'6 210???
    Jonathon Stewart 5'10-" 230???

    There are so many people you could point out that become first round picks every year who posess questionable measurements...

    No one more so than Vernon Gholston 6'3 6'4 267 4.4 speed 42" vert.

    NO WAY 

     

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