Re: Nink and others, PFF ratings off the charts!!!! WOW
posted at 1/17/2014 3:58 PM EST
In response to TripleOG's comment:
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What both Nink and Vrabel did extremely well was set the edge against the run. I believe that's the number 1 attribute BB looks for from that position (3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE). It's probably the reason we've had some issues in getting a consistent pass rush; that position has a responsibility to prevent the run first before getting after the QB.
Both of them could be very good to great pass rushers, but they're smart and unselfish enough to honor their responsibilities in the gameplan first. Tcal's comment that Nink regularly gives up 8+ yard runs is laughable. He's probably the most solid run stopper they have on the team now that Wilfork and Spikes are out.
and lets not forget he grew into that position. BB coaches em up! 2 years ago, Jake Long was absolutely KILLING Nink in the run game, so much that they had to move Wilfork over to that side to stop the bleeding so kudos for him for making strides but he is def. playing above his talent level. I will give him that. Right tackles are massive and its not fair to ask him to hold up all game at 255. Thats why I would like to see a rotation. He makes plays on sheer grit, determination and want to.
Pretty sure all DE's had trouble with Long. Do you agree that any DE who can turn in the highest rating against the run in the last 5 years, while still registering 8 sacks a year(meaning he isnt a 320 pound Ty Warren plaing 3-4 DE only setting an edge] is pretty damn good...oh by the way, he lead us in qb pressures?????
Never said I didnt like Nink. In fact in support of him, Ive always advocated, rotating him. The problem is he is so fundamentally sound, BB doesnt want him OFF the field. Ideally you rotate lineman to keep them fresh. This has always been my gripe. Lets talk about 2 years ago. Nink had a poor year in the 1st half of the season, transitioning from LB to DE. He was being engulfed and rushed up field all game and never got close to the QB. IN the middle of the year, something clicked or he finally got acclimated and started to make plays. He does make timely plays for us, but imagine how good he would be if he had a few plays off here and there? CJ as well. He HAS dissapeared in the 2nd half now twice but how can I blame him when he has played basically all the snaps ALL season. So when people brag about Depth, I counter with, what kind of depth do we have if these guys have to play ALL game, ALL season??
There aint no depth. Its not fair to them or us fans. We need a pass rush. We dont know game to game what we are gonna get. Buchanan and/or Bequette SHOULD be in a rotation allowing these guys rest like most teams do. So I ask, what are Buchanan and Bequette here for? Would you consider them depth and this some of his genius GM work? serious question. Great coach, but obviously not the best GM cuz he cant even play his OWN guys he drafted.
Oh and did I mention, Chandler Jones has taken Gronks spot on the extra point team?
That isn't depth that is the coach. He plays Gronk on st's, you think that is a lack of depth or a coaches philosophy that his best players will play? Come on!
And I don't what your talking about with Nink last year. He missed the 1st game and had 4 sacks, 4 forced fumbles in his 1st 7 games while battling 320 pound tackles and setting the edge of a great run defense...again.