now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    How the heck does this guy know that we are the only team to offer Abraham a contract?  Other than that not much to disagree with here.  It wouldn't surprise me if some of the cap space is used to preemptively lock up one or more guys.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    Good post I too see us picking up a DE and an OG. We need more depth and camp competition. I still think theres going to be another wave of cuts where cap casualties will be there for the taking.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    - There are really only two other areas where I can see them targeting veteran help before camp. One is running back



    Not sure I agree with this statement from the article. My guess is that they are pretty much set here.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    - There are really only two other areas where I can see them targeting veteran help before camp. One is running back

     



    Not sure I agree with this statement from the article. My guess is that they are pretty much set here.

     



    His point was that you need extra bodies in camp to limit the workload of RBs.  Running backs seem to age faster than any other position on the field, and every carry, even in the pre-season, takes its toll.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    Excellent piece, IMO.  Interesting stats re: age of the D, age of the O.  

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    Excellent piece, IMO.  Interesting stats re: age of the D, age of the O.  




    +1

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    Good post.  I agree they will bring in bodies but Kline and McDonald were two of the better UDFA guards available, Scar should be able to mold them into players.  The depth on this year's team will be really good.  We may need to bring the best available tightend free agent in assuming Gronk starts the year on the PUP.  It's good to finally read an optimistic take on the Patriots, this place is gloom and doom all the time...

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    Good post.  I agree they will bring in bodies but Kline and McDonald were two of the better UDFA guards available, Scar should be able to mold them into players.  The depth on this year's team will be really good.  We may need to bring the best available tightend free agent in assuming Gronk starts the year on the PUP.  It's good to finally read an optimistic take on the Patriots, this place is gloom and doom all the time...

     



    not all the time. some of us are unhappy with the free agent and draft policies, but now that is behind us, time to move on to camp and player evaluations...

     

    I hope if I am able to attend camp, and post someone did or didnt look good, you dont take that as doom and gloom...I think I honestly call them as I see them. Not that I am an expert, but I was spot on with Ocho, Gallery, Fletcher and Price when I commented. I thought Brace looked good in camp...I thought Cannon looked bad in camp. I also thought Mallett would over take Hoyer after last years sessions.  



    I was pleasantly surprised to read your upbeat post. If season started today Pats would be in great shape compared to most other teams.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    Good post.  I agree they will bring in bodies but Kline and McDonald were two of the better UDFA guards available, Scar should be able to mold them into players.  The depth on this year's team will be really good.  We may need to bring the best available tightend free agent in assuming Gronk starts the year on the PUP.  It's good to finally read an optimistic take on the Patriots, this place is gloom and doom all the time...




    Pats are strong and deep. Seems that way every year. But I do believe they need to UPGRADE either both or one of the O line and/or D line. The changes at DT MAY not bee enough. I just dont know. If the D line is essentially the same in terms of effectiveness then they need to upgrade eother C or RG or both.

    No argument that the team has depth and is strong.

     

     
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    Good post.  I agree they will bring in bodies but Kline and McDonald were two of the better UDFA guards available, Scar should be able to mold them into players.  The depth on this year's team will be really good.  We may need to bring the best available tightend free agent in assuming Gronk starts the year on the PUP.  It's good to finally read an optimistic take on the Patriots, this place is gloom and doom all the time...

     



    not all the time. some of us are unhappy with the free agent and draft policies, but now that is behind us, time to move on to camp and player evaluations...

     

    I hope if I am able to attend camp, and post someone did or didnt look good, you dont take that as doom and gloom...I think I honestly call them as I see them. Not that I am an expert, but I was spot on with Ocho, Gallery, Fletcher and Price when I commented. I thought Brace looked good in camp...I thought Cannon looked bad in camp. I also thought Mallett would over take Hoyer after last years sessions.  

     



    I was pleasantly surprised to read your upbeat post. If season started today Pats would be in great shape compared to most other teams.

     

     



    either 1st or 2nd favored to win the AFC...think the 49'ers and Seahawks are teams to beat in the NFC.

     

    AFC surprise team-Phins

    NFC surprise team-Cowboys



    I think the Phins will not be a factor. I thnk the surprise team in the AFC might be Cinci. They now have a 2 TE monster to challenge others the way we have plus they have Green, decent running and a decent young QB.

    In the NFC I would be careful of GB. THey may have a great year this time out.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    It is indeed an optimistic read but we have past history here.  Answering questionabe needs of the team have been ignored before.  Look how long it took to get the defensive backfield in some kind of order.  WR has been a problem of late and until recently there was no RB solution.  

    This looks like a good team starterwise.  Depth is a concern in spots.  

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    BB has done a great job once again in rebuilding this team. I can't think of many teams that would win 12 - 14 games while rebuilding but he's been able to manage that. They could use a couple of guys for depth but this team as long as the core ccan stay relatively healthy can win it all. Denver is good but the hype is way way overblown because of the medias love for Manning. We will beat Denver again. The young defense is really coming together, it could well be the strength of the team by the playoffs. That's going to be important because the offense has struggled in recent years during the post season. Patriots winning the Super Bowl in NY would be awesome.

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    Good Post!  Looking at the roster, there are not many available spots.  22 of 24 starters returning.  Add 2 backup TE, 3 extra running backs, 3 safeties, 3 cb's, 3 on the kicking team, 3-4 backup OL, at least 4 rookies making the team.  That is 44 of the possible 53 spots filled.  The final 9 will be the competition in camp.  I am thinking that Slater may not have a solid spot this year.  He is a good special teams player but is a one trick pony.  BB may use this spot for another bubble player that can play multiple positions. 

     

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    Good post.  I agree they will bring in bodies but Kline and McDonald were two of the better UDFA guards available, Scar should be able to mold them into players.  The depth on this year's team will be really good.  We may need to bring the best available tightend free agent in assuming Gronk starts the year on the PUP.  It's good to finally read an optimistic take on the Patriots, this place is gloom and doom all the time...

     




    Pats are strong and deep. Seems that way every year. But I do believe they need to UPGRADE either both or one of the O line and/or D line. The changes at DT MAY not bee enough. I just dont know. If the D line is essentially the same in terms of effectiveness then they need to upgrade eother C or RG or both.

     

    No argument that the team has depth and is strong.

     



    I agree, they are deep but along with you I wish they would have upgraded a couple more positions. Knowing that after rooks they are $6mil under makes me wonder why they didn't try to grab an additionally CB in FA or toss the extra $1mil at Sanders. I like Dobson and Moe. Boyce I'm a bit indifferent about but even with a solid rook WR class I'd prefer to have Sanders behind Amendola then Jones. Heck I think there is a good shot Moe beats out Jones for a spot on the team.

    The G situation to me never was. The moment they signed Svitek they'd be fine because they have 3 swing guys who can play G in McDonald, Zusevics, and Cannon. All in all I exactly love how this OL looks right now. Much more comfortable with it then I was last year going into camp.

    The DT spot is another one I wish they attacked a little harder. They showed interest in a number of guys that ended up signing for decent money but nothing more then their market value. Kelley to me is another retread. Maybe he'll have a little life left in him and give what G. Warren did but Warren was just a piece, a very good piece, but just a piece not an impactful starter. Who knows maybe Armstead is that guy but I think he'll need a year or two to develop and get up to NFL speed. Lets face it, he did well in the CFL but teams like LSU, Ala, heck maybe even ND last year could beat most CFL teams so it's like having an extra year on a top 10 college team. Though between Deadrick and Love who are both stout against the run if Kelley can just focus on the pass rush it might be a good bridge until Armstead develops.

    The TE situation doesn't concern me. Even if Gronk has to go on the 6 week PuP I think they will be fine. Keep an eye on that UDFA TE Sudfeld. I think he has a great chance at making the team. Especially if Gronk goes on PuP.

    As for vets they bring in late to camp, when was the last time one of those types worked out well, Waters in the shorten preseason? I could be completely wrong and I'm sure someone will point someone out but when was the last camp vet signing during a full offseason did more then being nice depth or a role player? So, I'm really not counting on any vet they bring in late to actually play a starting role. Imo we can essentially place all the starters right now except for a debate on the #2 WR and the 2nd DT

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

    I could be wrong, so someone correct me. But, since we carried over $5mil from last year if we don't use that $6mil this year then we lose that $5mil and can only carry over $1mil next year. If that's the case then I hope we add a couple vets who actually make the 53man squad or use that extra money to resign some of our guys this year. Spikes, Wendell, and Nink shouldn't be allowed to hit FA because someone will offer them good money. Spikes and Wendell the most important as I think Wendell is a C for years to come and Spikes is an anchor behind Wilfork in the run game. $6mil should be plenty to lock all 3 up

     
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    Re: now that the draft and FA are over with, time to become my optimistic self. good read

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    Good post.  I agree they will bring in bodies but Kline and McDonald were two of the better UDFA guards available, Scar should be able to mold them into players.  The depth on this year's team will be really good.  We may need to bring the best available tightend free agent in assuming Gronk starts the year on the PUP.  It's good to finally read an optimistic take on the Patriots, this place is gloom and doom all the time...

     



    not all the time. some of us are unhappy with the free agent and draft policies, but now that is behind us, time to move on to camp and player evaluations...

     

    I hope if I am able to attend camp, and post someone did or didnt look good, you dont take that as doom and gloom...I think I honestly call them as I see them. Not that I am an expert, but I was spot on with Ocho, Gallery, Fletcher and Price when I commented. I thought Brace looked good in camp...I thought Cannon looked bad in camp. I also thought Mallett would over take Hoyer after last years sessions.  

     



    What are these "policies"?

     

    You do realize that if Brady and the offense hadn't sucked in Sb 42 or SB 46 you wouldn't be typing what you are typing on a daily basis, correct?

    I am THRILLED.......THRILLED with our teamdbuilding "policies" and cannot wait for another division title.

    I will cross my fingers with Brady's play in January yet again.




    Why must you ruin EVERY thread with your sickness?  Just because the author notes a couple of needs, doesn't mean it's a slap in the face, media hate, conspiracy, against your beebee.

     
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