NY Media Working to Nullify Seymour Trade

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    Doesn't it make you wonder if there was some kind of under the table agreement?  I am sure Belichick would have nothing of that.  He's an above board kind of guy.
     
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    Hey Pedroverrated-You must be new in here-I've been saying that for years.I must retract one statement though.I have always and will always hate the loudmouth ,what's his name with the ketchup on his sock...oh yeah Schilling.Beckett is slowly working his way onto the list also.But he's getting hit so hard these days it's too much fun to watch.
    When will you people turn on BB?I'm guessing about midseason when you realize that the pats are just another team in the NFL.The glory Days(tainted as they may be) are long gone for pats fans.
    All right Gang! You know Leon-Early to bed and early to rise makes Leon not only healthy but wealthy and oh so very wise!

    Y'all have a nice night now....ya'hear!?
     
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    Hey Pedroverrated-You must be new in here-I've been saying that for years.I must retract one statement though.I have always and will always hate the loudmouth ,what's his name with the ketchup on his sock...oh yeah Schilling.Beckett is slowly working his way onto the list also.But he's getting hit so hard these days it's too much fun to watch. When will you people turn on BB?I'm guessing about midseason when you realize that the pats are just another team in the NFL.The glory Days(tainted as they may be) are long gone for pats fans. All right Gang! You know Leon-Early to bed and early to rise makes Leon not only healthy but wealthy and oh so very wise! Y'all have a nice night now....ya'hear!?
    Posted by LeonLike
     
    8:20? you still live at your mom's house?

    And I never really liked Schilling, I personally will never turn on BB untill he has consecutive loosing seasons, so like what the Jets did a few seasons of 4-12 and i think it'll be time for him to go. 

     
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    The football story is the best leon...tell it again!!! Tell all the new people leon, its a great story
     
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    Honestly, who cares.  Don't click on links to anyone who is tabbed a Patriots Hater - it only fuels the reason they do it.  If you are a journalist, your goal is to gain exposure with your commentary.  Doesn't matter if you divide or offend people, the most clicks he gets the more it reiforces the practice.
     
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    This is why I hate $eymour.
     
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    The trade has already been accepted by the league. The Raiders agreed and so did the Patriots. If Seymour doesn't want to go, it has nothing to do with the Pats. He didn't have a player trade clause in his contract so he can only blame himself for his misfortune. We get the 1st round pick and the Raiders get an unhappy Seymour. If it has to be reviewed by the league they will rule in favor of the Patriots because Seymour has no leverage. Thanks Al, good luck.
     
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    In Response to Re: NY Media Working to Nullify Seymour Trade:
    Florio actually pointed out during "Videogate" that the Pats hadn't broken any rule, since the rule ESPN and the like referred to was geared towards MEDIA not teams.  (The Pats were fined for defying the commissioner).


    Do you have a link that you can post to that article?
     
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         Isn't it funny how the Indianapolis Colts get praised, for the very things that BB and the Pats' get villified for: http://www.indystar.com/article/20090908/SPORTS15/909080344/1004/SPORTS/Colts+keep+sentimentality+out+of+equation      When both Rodney Harrison and Tedy Bruschi retired, and Vrabbel and Seymour were traded, the Pats were criticised for not rewarding loyalty...and for being so bottom line/business-like. Where were the media outcries when the Colts jettisoned Marvin Harrison, Brandon Stokely, Dominik Rhodes, and Edgerrin James? 
    Posted by TexasPat3

    Phauck the Colts
     
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    No one is against the Patriots. Seymour will be in practice on tuesday.
    Posted by 49Patriots


    Wrong on both counts.
     
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    In Response to Re: NY Media Working to Nullify Seymour Trade :      You may be right on the money, Irk: http://www.examiner.com/x-1324-New-England-Patriots-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Does-Richard-Seymour-have-to-report-to-the-Oakland-Raiders-for-the-trade-to-be-official
    Posted by TexasPat3


    It is rumored that Seymour and Oakland are working on a long term deal....
     
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    TP - very interesting thing going on here, and I think you have a good point. 

    There do,however appear to be differences.  TB accepted the trade knowing Plummers stated intent to retire.  The TB compensation was conditional based on Plummer's decision. 

    Neither of these things (as far as I know) are a part of the Seymour deal. 
     
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    Do I have this right? When Seymour wants more money, he decides football is a business . . . but when the team decides football is a business, Seymour is "angry." F*ck him.
    Posted by prairiemike


    Granted, he is only one player, but how many games were influenced by his absence when he "held out" for business reasons and then turns around and he is angry at the Pats??!!  The checks were still cashed, weren't they, regardless of the stuff he pulled!
     
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    According to Michael Lombardi of nationalfootballpost.com (as heard on 98.5 today), the papers are in and the trade is complete.  Unless Seymour fails a physical, he is a Raider.  If he fails the physical, the trade is nullified and he comes back to the Pats.  He can retire but risks the possiblity of being sued for his signing bonus (a la Jake Plummer... who lost in court).  Lombardi didn't specify which team would have the burden of taking him to court, but unless he is injured, his other options are to report or sit out.  If he sits out, the Raiders can put him on the "did not report" list and he loses money.  If he sits out the season, he loses this year toward free agency.

    Because of the CBA, this is an issue between Seymour and the Raiders and the Raiders have the upper hand financially here.  If Goodell were to circumvent the CBA, it opens up a huge can of worms for any team trying to trade a player.  I doubt that the owners would allow that.

    Also, Adam Schefter has proposed a scenario (don't know if this is only speculation) where the Raiders offer Seymour to Carolina for Peppers because the Panthers are sick of Peppers' demands while Seymour has his summer residence in relative proximity to Charlotte.
     
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    In Response to Re: NY Media Working to Nullify Seymour Trade:
         Heres' another opinion on the status of Seymour: http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/07/why-seymour-will-end-up-a-raider/
    Posted by TexasPat3



    Yeah, but that is on the Oakland/Bay Area equivalent of this site.  If there was something that could that easily nullify the trade, wouldn't it have been reported on extensively already?!?!  People may not want this trade to go through, but it was apparently OK'd by the NFL and the paperwork is in.  He is a Raider and is their responsibility.  You cannot compare this to Spygate because if Goodell comes in and takes over, he sets a precedent that would blow up in his face.  He can't step in each time a player pulls this stunt and decide which team HE thinks should get / get stuck with the player in question.  He also cannot always side with the player because that puts all of the power in the players' hands and the owners will not let that happen.

    While people usually root for the underdog and against dynaties, that doesn't mean that the underdog is always right.
     
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    Re: NY Media Working to Nullify Seymour Trade

    Not sure if this has been brought up, it probably has, but I'll mention it anyway. The Jake plummer situation a few years back, in which he was traded, then  retired. Denver got to keep thier draft pick, and TB was awarded the salary cap relief. So there is precidence for this.

    My guess is the pats get to keep the pick no matter waht happens moving forward, and only the raiders will be effected by whatever seymore decides to do.
     
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