Ocho and Haynesworth restructured their contracts!!

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    Ocho and Haynesworth restructured their contracts!!

    Recently acquired wide receiver Chad Ochocinco and defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth have both restructured their contracts with the Patriots. The following are their new base salaries, according to NFLPA documents: 

    Ochocinco: 
    • 2011 - $1,000,000
    • 2012 - $3,000,000
    • 2013 - $3,000,000
    Haynesworth: 
    • 2011 - $1,500,000
    • 2012 - $6,700,000

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4699674/ochocinco-haynesworth-restructure-deals
     
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    So all this means is the pats get more cap room this year and more money goes agiasnt it the next few years ,so good for now but ties up money next year.
     
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    Hoping for some solid mileage
     
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    So all this means is the pats get more cap room this year and more money goes agiasnt it the next few years ,so good for now but ties up money next year.
    Posted by lippa


    unless they cut them after this year...
     
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    YEAH I think the OCHOCINCO, Big Al and Mankins move are great... next year will take care at the time...

    This year is the one that matters... we have all the pieces to have a strong season and maybe add yet another good player to the team, we also have the Draft Picks to trade for almost any player in the league if NE wants that.

    :D i just hope NE can put everything together in 3 more weeks, !

    go pats !

     
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    In Response to Re: Ocho and Haynesworth restructured their contracts!! : unless they cut them after this year...
    Posted by adam4522


    Precisely!

    Especially for Haynesworth, if he dogs it this year, he'll never see $6.7 million again from anyone.
     
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    Perfect. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Ocho and Haynesworth restructured their contracts!!:
    So all this means is the pats get more cap room this year and more money goes agiasnt it the next few years ,so good for now but ties up money next year.
    Posted by lippa


    Except 3 mil a year is really cheap for a starting WR and 6.7mil is cheap if Haynesworth performs to his level in Tenn otherwise he'll be dumped and not cost a dime.

    So doesn't tie up much money comparatively to what it would cost to replace their talent levels. Actually if you think about replacing their talent levels it would be more expensive to do so, so it's like saving money. Of course that's based on them playing to their levels but still fairly cheap imo
     
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    So all this means is the pats get more cap room this year and more money goes against it the next few years ,so good for now but ties up money next year.
    Posted by lippa

    The way I see it is, if they perform up to their capabilities, Chad and Albert will still be bargains next year.

    Brady ~ 15 million
    Mankins ~ 8 million
    Wilfork ~ 8 million
    Light ~ 6 million
    Bodden ~ 5.5 million
    Mayo ~ 3.8 million
    Welker ~ 3.6 million
    Meriweather ~ 1.75 million
    McCourty ~ 2 million
    Branch ~ 3.8 million
    Gronkowski ~ 1.1 million
    Green-Ellis ~ 1.83 million
    Woodhead ~ .8 million
     
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    So all this means is the pats get more cap room this year and more money goes agiasnt it the next few years ,so good for now but ties up money next year.
    Posted by lippa


    No :)

    It means:

    1) Limited risk.  If either player isn't prepared to be good teamates, they can get cut with no real financial loss.  Just the later-round draft choices.

    2) It means if they play well and don't get cut, we'll have good players (possibly great for AH) locked in for three years at a bargain deal.

    3) Most, wayyyy most importantly, it means these guys didn't come here for money.  They came to compete and play.
     
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    In Response to Re: Ocho and Haynesworth restructured their contracts!! : No :) It means: 1) Limited risk.  If either player isn't prepared to be good teamates, they can get cut with no real financial loss.  Just the later-round draft choices. 2) It means if they play well and don't get cut, we'll have good players (possibly great for AH) locked in for three years at a bargain deal. 3) Most, wayyyy most importantly, it means these guys didn't come here for money.  They came to compete and play.
    Posted by USMCM1A1


       Ok i get what your saying but unless gurennteed money the other money is never gureenteed anyways  in football thats the way it is someone could sign for 4 mil but nothing is gureenteed and they get cut or on waiver and get nothing unless another team picks them up.
     
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    They verbally agreed to this prior to signing, they want to be here and are motivated which is foreboding for the rest of the league.  I don't see either of them hoofing it or not playing up to their talents, not here...
     
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    "so good for now but ties up money next year."

    After some playoff disappointments it's fine by me if they push hard to win it all this year, hopefully you'll hop on this train at some point also.
     
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    It shows their part of team Patriot.
     
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    i really like haynesworth redone deal. only making 1.5 million really lites a fire under his A S S to maybe get that 6.7 mill next year
     
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    2011-2012 is all that matters now!!  INDY in FEB is where I want to be!! 

     
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    Your missing it-BB gives short $ this year for 2 great players if they come to play, if not cut them and no big $ next year! Now we can sign  a Roth or whomever,(who knows what the Hoodie has in mind?)-Great moves fiscally today-this is why the Pats under BB and Kraft are the best-enjoy it while it lasts boys and girls-I lived thru the hell of the Sullivans! Go Pats -SB or Bust-this is our year.
     
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    why would haynesworth restructure his deal?
     
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    All incentive based for Haynesworth this year...Perfect way to make him work for his money.....

    Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports Haynesworth took a pay cut in base salary all the way from $5.4 million base salary to $1.5 million.  That’s quite a haircut, but Haynesworth can make back all the money in incentives if he has a terrific season.

    If Haynesworth plays 20% of the team’s snaps, he gets $1 million.  He then gets an additional $590,000 once he gets over each of the following playing time thresholds: 45% of the team’s snaps, 50%, 55%, 60%, and 65%.  He gets an additional $400,000 if he makes the Pro Bowl.

     
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    this must mean that he really wants to be here and that he would not get much better on the open market

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    All incentive based for Haynesworth this year...Perfect way to make him work for his money..... Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports Haynesworth took a pay cut in base salary all the way from $5.4 million base salary to $1.5 million.  That’s quite a haircut, but Haynesworth can make back all the money in incentives if he has a terrific season. If Haynesworth  plays 20% of the team’s snaps , he gets $1 million.  He then gets an additional $590,000 once he gets over each of the following playing time thresholds: 45% of the team’s snaps, 50%, 55%, 60%, and 65%.  He gets an additional $400,000 if he makes the Pro Bowl.
    Posted by tompenny

     
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    No chance that either of these deals do not include some sort of signing bonus.

    Ocho and Haynesworth (and their agents) just don't give all that money back without getting something in return.  The artcle states the base salary only for Ocho and the base plus incentive clauses for Haynesworth. 

    Obviously there is some sort of up front signing bonus to go along with them.  Let's say $3-4m for each.  That way if Ocho lasts just 1 year, he gets $4-5.5m for the 2011 season.  The Pats get to spread the signing bonus over 2-3 seasons to lower their cap hit in 2011.  Haynesworth gets to keep his bonus even if cut, earns a small base and can make up to $4m in incentives if he has a monster year. 

    Works for everyone...that's why everyone would agree to such a deal.
     
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    I'm sure it also means that even though Haynesworth hasn't been practicing the past few days, he must be OK physically.
     
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    So all this means is the pats get more cap room this year and more money goes agiasnt it the next few years ,so good for now but ties up money next year.
    Posted by lippa
    no, all this means that aft this season haynesworth is toast unles we dont want him. no way bel is paying him 6.7m even if he has 30 sacks and wins every award there is and is the mvp of the super bowl. albert is due ZERO bonuses. if we want him, bb will have him restructure it. so he gets 4m each of the next 2 years per example. if he refuses, we cut him and he's a free agent that costs us nothing. that high sum protacts him so he's not stuck at minimum wage when/if he has a big season. protects the pats for they know they can cut him or restructure it again to their benefit. gives the pats some rights to him if he has a monster season without having to bid on the free market. of course they could always bring him back and then trade him for a 3rd rounder to a desperat 4-3 team not called the jets or ravens or n the afc. bottom line, only way any of this is of consideration is if he has a good patriot way season. if he doesnt, c ya and it costs us NOTHING! NO cap hit...
     
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    No chance that either of these deals do not include some sort of signing bonus. Ocho and Haynesworth (and their agents) just don't give all that money back without getting something in return.  The artcle states the base salary only for Ocho and the base plus incentive clauses for Haynesworth.  Obviously there is some sort of up front signing bonus to go along with them.  Let's say $3-4m for each.  That way if Ocho lasts just 1 year, he gets $4-5.5m for the 2011 season.  The Pats get to spread the signing bonus over 2-3 seasons to lower their cap hit in 2011.  Haynesworth gets to keep his bonus even if cut, earns a small base and can make up to $4m in incentives if he has a monster year.  Works for everyone...that's why everyone would agree to such a deal.
    Posted by bobomul
    wrong all sources have said 'ZERO UPFRONT$.. these are team friendly deals. to get out of jail and come to heaven, this is how things get done. neither player had any leverage. we were the only ones willing to give their teams any compensation and the only team either wanted to really play for. no competition, all the leverage, great deal. albert gets performance incentives if he gets the job done and stays aelthy. if he's the mvp and the super bowl mvp and is all-pro again, perhaps he maxes out at another 1.5m.. so thats 3m.. chad gets 1.5 mil and in the next 2 years 4.5m.. again, this means he's good if he's colecting. no way he returns if he's less than electrifying.. period.. if we cut him, little salary cap hit, thats what bb wantS!
     
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