Re: Ocho is here to stay
posted at 3/24/2012 2:49 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Ocho is here to stay
In Response to Re: Ocho is here to stay : A better post season???? POSTSEASON STATS 75 111 878 67.6 7.91 61 8 4 100.4 He completed 68% of his passes for 8 tds and a 100.4 QB rating. He lead a one dimensional offense that doesn't like to run to his 5th Super Bowl appearance in 10 seasons as a starter. He has the highest winning % in NFL history . Has the whole damn world gone crazy? And what kind of an argument is "did Hannah have Kraft"??? Brady plays in the FA era, he was successful with a bunch of midget receivers from 01-04, then he was successful with NO receivers in 06, then he turned in the best season statistically in NFL history the first time he was given weapons in 07. Then we switched to a 2 TE set and he threw 36 tds to only 4 interceptions which may have been his finest season. Anyway I don't expect you to concede a point so lets not turn this into a 9 page back and forth.
Posted by TrueChamp
Why do I need to concede a point when my opinion is simply different for different reasons? Just because Hannah plays a less sexy position, doesn't mean Brady is the best Patriot ever. Stop acting all incredulous. It's very reasonable for any Pats fan to choose the great Hannah over Brady. I would change my mind if Brady improves his postseasons.
And yes, Brady has had BB and Kraft alongside him while Hannah had horrendous ownership (arugably the worst in the NFL), GMs and coaches overall. So, even though this is a FA era, BB's incredible stewardship as coach and GM has evened out any pre cap era rhetoric in Hannah's time.
Again, Hannah is WIDELY considered THE BEST OL of all time. Brady, while in the discussion, has not earned that status yet. Maybe he will? But, not right now. He just had 2 chances in 4 seasons to support your premise.
Brady was on his way to the best ever in 2007. He got hurt in 2008. Came back in 2009. Was amazing in 2010 with a subpar postseason game.
In 2011, he was very inconsistent, torched an 8-8 Denver club and then proceeded to suck (his own words) against Balt and then to stumble in the 4th qtr of SB 46.
This is exactly what has happened. He was a better QB earlier in his career. His stats went up with better offensive personnel, but his postseason play has gone down. This latter points is unequivocally not debatable.