Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

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    Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/06/david-harris-heads-field-of-nfls-best-free-agent-outside-linebackers/1

    This board seems to like Matt Roth a great deal but from what I have read - he's not really an edge rusher - just an animal that can push the pocket....and he's supposedly pretty good against the run - is he the leading candidate?
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    roth+1
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    roth. lawson!
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    Roth and Lawson seem like the only realistic options. If the new CBA doesn't have a franchise tag, then that could make players like Hali or Woodley slighty more viable than they are now. 

    Lawson would cost more, but it seems like he has more upside as a pass rusher as he was very effective when asked to do it in SF, and is certainly good in pass coverage.

    Roth would be more like a depth or quality signing, as he is really at that age when you know what you are getting. 

    If there is not tag, then someone like Wimbley might be a more cost-effective option than Hali or Woodley. The latter two might actually make something close to the "tag" value, while "tagging" Wimbley seems a bit like another boneheaded Raider move. 
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    Roth and Lawson are the most realistic given probable contract demands, high upside, low risk, and drive to improve. Of the two Roth is the most likely because he's been playing in system the were run by the BB coaching tree. He also has experience playing outside edge rush in a 3-4 system with Cle. Roth also fits that elephant size role to put his hand down or stand up. He just won't be used to cover. A pure rushing specialist
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    Lawson: athlete

    My perception of Roth is that he doesn't bring anything to the table that Ninkovich already brings as a hustler/grinder

    Depends what they want.  Maybe they can afford both depending on their willingness to play special teams, etc.

    I'd consider dumping Banta-Cain if I brought on Lawson, as Lawson has more upside and can still pass rush assuming he picks up the scheme
     
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    In Response to Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency:
    [QUOTE]Lawson: athlete My perception of Roth is that he doesn't bring anything to the table that Ninkovich already brings as a hustler/grinder Depends what they want.  Maybe they can afford both depending on their willingness to play special teams, etc. I'd consider dumping Banta-Cain if I brought on Lawson, as Lawson has more upside and can still pass rush assuming he picks up the scheme
    Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188[/QUOTE]

    I don't think it's really a fair estimation of Tully Banta-Cain's overall ability, that you'd only consider dumping him only IF Pats got Manny Lawson...
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    I think Roth because I think Lawson will want more money. I think Lawson could be the better player, but like I inferred, you would get better value for Roth.
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    Roth gives them something they are sorely lacking on the outside right now...size. The person that said he's not much different than Ninkovich is probably right, except Nincovich and just about all their outside guys stand at only around the six one to six three range. Remember the days when we could roll out a McGinnest 6'5" or a Vrabel 6'4"? It'd be nice to have guys like that again...if they didn't get to the passer, at least they could put their hands up and disrupt throwing lanes or match up in height with a tight end.
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    with the new CBA we will be required to spend more with the installation of a cap floor as well as a cap ceiling, so signing one big FA isn't an issue. so bringing in a potential star like lawson could actually help our cap situation.
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    nate - although I agree the cap situation focuses us to get some bigger name FA's I wouldn't put Lawson into potential star category. He has the athletic ability but he has under performed from what was expected out of college. Maybe, that was due to coaching or the team but I would consider him more of a mid tier player move at this point in his career (think when we got TBC back, similiar career stats until TBC resigned). I'd be surprised if he ever gets into that star category or gets a big payday.

    Truthfully I want them to split those cap funds and get a mid tier WR and a mid tier LB.

    The WR's I'm looking at are Floyd and Sims-Walker and the LB's are Roth and Lawson.
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    roth is terrible. 
     
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    Re: Of the 10 OLB Listed - Who would be the most likely Candidate for the Pats to pursue in Free Agency

    Jermaine Cunningham will emerge but Travis laboy could be a good fit...here's a good site...http://60maxpowero.com/
     
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