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    Woods second shot on 15 hits the pin spins back into the water.  He drops , plants one still, taps in for bogey.   Well arm chair referees have determined that he didn't drop the ball close enough to the original spot, thus a 2 stroke penalty and or possible disqualification.   I hope he withdraws to kill the tv ratings.   How cheesy

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs

     
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    From the looks of things Faldo is not a big woods fan. Lol.  Calling for him to withdraw.  

     
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    The Masters...A Plantation unlike any other.

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs




    I don't feel sorry for the 14 year old--why is he there anyway. did he do something special to get there. How do the players who qualified the hard way feel about this,, What if he actually won.??

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs

     




     

    I don't feel sorry for the 14 year old--why is he there anyway. did he do something special to get there. How do the players who qualified the hard way feel about this,, What if he actually won.??

     



    He qualified legitimately, I forget what he won but some amateur tournament. He's already beaten a bunch allegedly better players. Pretty remarkable, really. There was a fat kid in the US Open that was in contention on Sunday last year before he faded, I think he was 17.  These young kids can play and they don't seem at all fazed by the big stage.

     

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs

     




     

    I don't feel sorry for the 14 year old--why is he there anyway. did he do something special to get there. How do the players who qualified the hard way feel about this,, What if he actually won.??

     



    He qualified legitimately, I forget what he won but some amateur tournament. He's already beaten a bunch allegedly better players. Pretty remarkable, really. There was a fat kid in the US Open that was in contention on Sunday last year before he faded, I think he was 17.  These young kids can play and they don't seem at all fazed by the big stage.

     




    well good if he got legitimately, but to feel sorry for him is crazy. if you re there then you are subject to the rules everyone else is. still don't like him being there, maybe it's because the best women players are not there but he is because he is a male and won some tournment that allowed him to qualify,

     
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    Not disqualifying Tiger shows what a joke golf is.  TV ratings would have dropped 50% without him and we all know TV ratings correlate directly to MONEY. 

    PGA = Zero Integrity

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     

     
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    Normally he would have been DQ, but a couple years ago they passed what they call " the HD TV rule" where it's something to the effect if the player oesnt know he broke a rule it's a 2 shot penalty and not DQ.  No doubt it's for ratings   It was made because fans calling in infractions.   I also believe woods had an illegal drop in the Dubai open this year

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs

     




     

    I don't feel sorry for the 14 year old--why is he there anyway. did he do something special to get there. How do the players who qualified the hard way feel about this,, What if he actually won.??

     



    He qualified legitimately, I forget what he won but some amateur tournament. He's already beaten a bunch allegedly better players. Pretty remarkable, really. There was a fat kid in the US Open that was in contention on Sunday last year before he faded, I think he was 17.  These young kids can play and they don't seem at all fazed by the big stage.

     

     




     

    well good if he got legitimately, but to feel sorry for him is crazy. if you re there then you are subject to the rules everyone else is. still don't like him being there, maybe it's because the best women players are not there but he is because he is a male and won some tournment that allowed him to qualify,

     



    I know what you're saying. Augusta is run by some of the biggest azz holes on the planet. A few years back my cousin (female) and her 2 daughters wanted to check it out and simply turned into the driveway and a car came racing down and blocked them and security told them to turn around and leave immediately

     

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs

     




     

    I don't feel sorry for the 14 year old--why is he there anyway. did he do something special to get there. How do the players who qualified the hard way feel about this,, What if he actually won.??

     



    He qualified legitimately, I forget what he won but some amateur tournament. He's already beaten a bunch allegedly better players. Pretty remarkable, really. There was a fat kid in the US Open that was in contention on Sunday last year before he faded, I think he was 17.  These young kids can play and they don't seem at all fazed by the big stage.

     

     




     

    well good if he got legitimately, but to feel sorry for him is crazy. if you re there then you are subject to the rules everyone else is. still don't like him being there, maybe it's because the best women players are not there but he is because he is a male and won some tournment that allowed him to qualify,

     



    I know what you're saying. Augusta is run by some of the biggest azz holes on the planet. A few years back my cousin (female) and her 2 daughters wanted to check it out and simply turned into the driveway and a car came racing down and blocked them and security told them to turn around and leave immediately

     



    Tell her to take the Bently next time    

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     



    I think Woods squandered a tremendous opportunity for redemption.  He should have DQed himself.  It was a chance for him to pay homage to the game that has been so good to him.  It was also an opportunity to redefine his character in the eyes of his detractors.  Even if he wins the tournament, he will be defamed.

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     

     



    I think Woods squandered a tremendous opportunity for redemption.  He should have DQed himself.  It was a chance for him to pay homage to the game that has been so good to him.  It was also an opportunity to redefine his character in the eyes of his detractors.  Even if he wins the tournament, he will be defamed.

     



    You watch a scorned tiger burn the field.  Then forever it will be suggested the asterisk next to the title.  No sport is safe.  Commie must be dying I started this thread ahead of him.  

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     

     



    I think Woods squandered a tremendous opportunity for redemption.  He should have DQed himself.  It was a chance for him to pay homage to the game that has been so good to him.  It was also an opportunity to redefine his character in the eyes of his detractors.  Even if he wins the tournament, he will be defamed.

     




    o bullcrap they made the decision! the game has been good to him because he's been so damn good for the game!!! and he doesn't need to redefine his character any more than Belichick does. He's a black man making it big in a  WHITE MAN s world , he doesn't owe anybody anything!

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     




    The first problem is he made a mistake that he should have realized at the time.  This is not a difficult rule for a professional golfer to understand.

    The second problem is the initial review by the Committee found no error (utter stupidity IMO).

    Once the round was completed and the scorecard was signed the Committee took a fresh look.  At that point, and only then could they legitimately invoke rule 33-7 (this application has nothing to do with HDTV).

    But Tiger still had the opportunity to DQ himself.  Golf used to be above other games/sports for the enforcement of rules.   Not any more IMO.

    Tiger, you are no Bobby Jones.

     
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    Woods second shot on 15 hits the pin spins back into the water.  He drops , plants one still, taps in for bogey.   Well arm chair referees have determined that he didn't drop the ball close enough to the original spot, thus a 2 stroke penalty and or possible disqualification.   I hope he withdraws to kill the tv ratings.   How cheesy



    Greg Norman thinks he should withdraw for the integrity and honor of the game of golf.  He has until 1:45 to withdraw from the tournament and show that he does not think that he is bigger than the tradition of the game. His past history with integrity would suggest that he will play. But don't worry the media will have his back and it will all go away soon enough, except for those people who know the game of golf.

     

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     

     




    The first problem is he made a mistake that he should have realized at the time.  This is not a difficult rule for a professionalgolfer to understand.

     

    The second problem is the initial review by the Committee found no error (utter stupidity IMO).

    Once the round was completed and the scorecard was signed the Committee took a fresh look.  At that point, and only then could they legitimately invoke rule 33-7 (this application has nothing to do with HDTV).

    But Tiger still had the opportunity to DQ himself.  Golf used to be above other games/sports for the enforcement of rules.   Not any more IMO.

    Tiger, you are no Bobby Jones.




    hey catfish you ever take a mulligan?  you ever forget those whifs out in the rough, you ever write down a 6 when it was actually an 11. integrity --in golf- I don't know any other game where people cheat so much and get away with it. an I don't think tiger gives a damn what anybody thinks anymore than Belichick does!!

     
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    I agree that was stupid. It'd be funny if he did withdraw haha

    I felt bad for the 14 year old kid too. I know he got a couple warnings but the kid is 14 and playing in the masters for the first time with winds changing forcing golfers to switch back and forth between clubs

     




     

    I don't feel sorry for the 14 year old--why is he there anyway. did he do something special to get there. How do the players who qualified the hard way feel about this,, What if he actually won.??

     



    He qualified legitimately, I forget what he won but some amateur tournament. He's already beaten a bunch allegedly better players. Pretty remarkable, really. There was a fat kid in the US Open that was in contention on Sunday last year before he faded, I think he was 17.  These young kids can play and they don't seem at all fazed by the big stage.

     

     




     

    well good if he got legitimately, but to feel sorry for him is crazy. if you re there then you are subject to the rules everyone else is. still don't like him being there, maybe it's because the best women players are not there but he is because he is a male and won some tournment that allowed him to qualify,

     



    I know what you're saying. Augusta is run by some of the biggest azz holes on the planet. A few years back my cousin (female) and her 2 daughters wanted to check it out and simply turned into the driveway and a car came racing down and blocked them and security told them to turn around and leave immediately

     

     



    Tell her to take the Bently next time    

     



    LOL

     
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    Woods second shot on 15 hits the pin spins back into the water.  He drops , plants one still, taps in for bogey.   Well arm chair referees have determined that he didn't drop the ball close enough to the original spot, thus a 2 stroke penalty and or possible disqualification.   I hope he withdraws to kill the tv ratings.   How cheesy

         
    Greg Norman thinks he should withdraw for the integrity and honor of the game of golf.  He has until 1:45 to withdraw from the tournament and show that he does not think that he is bigger than the tradition of the game. His past history with integrity would suggest that he will play. But don't worry the media will have his back and it will all go away soon enough, except for those people who know the game of golf.

    RESPONSE: Why should Woods withdraw over that bs call? He's invested his time...and his time is money...to play in the tournament. The best way to get back at those over officious jerks is to come back strong, and win the tournament...despite the obvious disadvantage.  




     
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    Golf sucks.  Who cares.

    *Edit: Playing it is one thing.  But watching it?  No thanks.

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     

     




    The first problem is he made a mistake that he should have realized at the time.  This is not a difficult rule for a professionalgolfer to understand.

     

    The second problem is the initial review by the Committee found no error (utter stupidity IMO).

    Once the round was completed and the scorecard was signed the Committee took a fresh look.  At that point, and only then could they legitimately invoke rule 33-7 (this application has nothing to do with HDTV).

    But Tiger still had the opportunity to DQ himself.  Golf used to be above other games/sports for the enforcement of rules.   Not any more IMO.

    Tiger, you are no Bobby Jones.

     




    hey catfish you ever take a mulligan?  you ever forget those whifs out in the rough, you ever write down a 6 when it was actually an 11. integrity --in golf- I don't know any other game where people cheat so much and get away with it. an I don't think tiger gives a damn what anybody thinks anymore than Belichick does!!

     



    yes I have ... too many times to count.
    Everything you say is correct.  But you are talking about weekend golfers.  Professional golfers are held to the rules.

     
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    Woods second shot on 15 hits the pin spins back into the water.  He drops , plants one still, taps in for bogey.   Well arm chair referees have determined that he didn't drop the ball close enough to the original spot, thus a 2 stroke penalty and or possible disqualification.   I hope he withdraws to kill the tv ratings.   How cheesy

         
    Greg Norman thinks he should withdraw for the integrity and honor of the game of golf.  He has until 1:45 to withdraw from the tournament and show that he does not think that he is bigger than the tradition of the game. His past history with integrity would suggest that he will play. But don't worry the media will have his back and it will all go away soon enough, except for those people who know the game of golf.

    RESPONSE: Why should Woods withdraw over that bs call? He's invested his time...and his time is money...to play in the tournament. The best way to get back at those over officious jerks is to come back strong, and win the tournament...despite the obvious disadvantage.  

     




     



    Response to your Response: After his round yesterday he said in his interview that he dropped the ball a couple of feet from his divot because he was going to hit the same shot and was concerned that he might get the same result. The rule is very specific about dropping the ball as close to the original divot as possible. A couple feet does not cut it. I would have to suspend disbelief that Tiger or Caddy does not know the rule concerning taking a drop. His intent was to break the rule which is a Disqualification. He then signed his score card with the wrong score.  Three professional golfers have been DQ'd this year for signing a wrong score card. None of them were named TIGER. The major infraction was his admitted intent when he dropped the ball.

     

    Now unfortunately the spokesman for the Masters rules committee sounded like a $1,000.00 an hour lawyer representing Ken Lay. Golf is the only sport that is supposed to be self regulating. But every body sees this for what it is: SHOW ME THE MONEY. 

     

    Any way I can't add anything else and I hope you take this in the spirit in which it is intended.

     
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    Actually he shouldn't be dq'ed or withdraw. The pga saw no issue with the drop yesterday so that means tiger did not incorrectly fill out his card. Had he then yes auto dq. The pga said today upon further review it was a bad drop and assessed a two spot penalty. The only reason someone us dq'ed is for wrongly filling out a score card.He did not do that so why should he be dq'ed?

    The real issue is the pga should've been right there unsteady caught it as it happened assessed the penalty then and boom done no controversy

     

     




    The first problem is he made a mistake that he should have realized at the time.  This is not a difficult rule for a professionalgolfer to understand.

     

    The second problem is the initial review by the Committee found no error (utter stupidity IMO).

    Once the round was completed and the scorecard was signed the Committee took a fresh look.  At that point, and only then could they legitimately invoke rule 33-7 (this application has nothing to do with HDTV).

    But Tiger still had the opportunity to DQ himself.  Golf used to be above other games/sports for the enforcement of rules.   Not any more IMO.

    Tiger, you are no Bobby Jones.



    The golf channel refered to it as the hd tv rule.  Don't kill the messager

     
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    Actually the wardens at the Masters penitentairy made a horrible call. First of all the 14 year old boy won the Pan-Asian ametuer qualifiying tournament and if he was playing slow what were the folks in front of him doing? Also you play with two others on the first two days,so what were they doing and why weren't they penalized?  As for Tiger the additional two stroke penalty was uncalled for. He played within the rules of the USGA,he's only required to drop the ball in the reasonable same area as his previous shot,which he did a few feet from the prior shot further away from the pin as the rules require so's not to move closer to the pin. If I were Tiger I would have thanked them politely for the penaly shot and then WD from the event,leaving the Masters with only the 14 year old Chinese boy for them to fawn over in the TV booth.

     
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