Re: Off Topic; Drew Brees = Cheap Son of a gun!
posted at 8/2/2013 11:26 AM EDT
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to Mike-J-D's comment:
Any time this topic comes up you have bitter former waiters saying 20% tip is bare minimum as long as the waiter doesn't take a smash in your entree, and people who have never waited tables saying tips should be based on quality of service.
I agree that the system is stupid and is just a way for restaurants to get away with paying its employees peanuts.
A couple of weeks ago, I ordered Pizza Hut online and went in the store to pick it up. Didn't even consider tipping. Granted it was only 2 pizzas and breadsticks, not $74, but I don't think that matters. The bill is for the food I ordered.
Big difference between Pizza Hut where people are paid above minimum wage and are paid to essentially be cooks and make you bad pizza compared to a restaurant service. You don't tip the cooks at restaurants or hosts who seat you because they are paid better to do those jobs. Servers are paid just enough to cover taxes and live off of your tips for the service they provide. I don't think a single ex server will say you have to tip 20% min but we all do because we know how difficult it is and like to give that little bit extra. You should tip based on service but you should also not tip just because you don't feel like it or because you don't think you should have to tip based on the order and unless they did take a smash in your food (which it could have been the cook not them) you should always leaves a tip to servers.
OK if that's the case at Pizza Hut, they have sitdown tables there as well, where a waiter will serve you like any other restaurant. Are you saying they aren't expecting me to tip if I would have ordered and eaten it there? Of course they would, and I would have tipped. Because I'd be tipping on the service I received.
I'm not saying don't tip at all. And I have never not tipped. I hear a lot of ex servers say everyone "should" tip 20% regardless of service. Which I disagree with and I think that is what a couple others here disagree with.
Another example. I was out to dinner with my girlfriend about a month ago. She used to be a server too. it was a sparse Wednesday evening crowd but the service we got was inattentive, slow, the guy seemed disinteresed, had poor body language, honestly acted like we were inconveniencing him by being there. She even said to me "I don't think he likes us". We both agreed the serivce was terrible. Are you saying this guy deserved a 20% tip? No way. The guy deserved $3 maximum (on approx. a $25-30 bill) in my book. Although I tipped more because she asked me to,being a former server. Not as much as she would have though. It isn't about being cheap, it's about giving a tip based on the service you receive.