Re: Off Topic: WW2
posted at 1/11/2013 10:56 PM EST
In response to RockScully's comment:
In response to ccnsd's comment:
Wow, did not realize so many Pat fans actually are embarrased to be Americans. Someone actually thinks Che Guevara is a hero on this sight. The facts are communist governments have murdered millions more of their own citizins than the American military has managed to kill in all of it's wars combined. America is not perfect but the western democracies allow more freedom than any socialist country has ever allowed.
It's because they're dumb, probably didn't go to college, haven't traveled, don't know anyone who lived under that kind of rule, etc, etc, etc.
This thread ended way back on Page 2 or 3 when I had to slap our little misguided friend Ricky.
It's popular to sort of be a contrarian and play on the economic downturn we've unfortunately experienced here in recent years. It's no different than what Hitler did in the 1920s, blasting Communism, or what Joseph McCarthy did in the 1950s in this country.
Communism is a clear failure, etc, but the irony is, dramatists like Ricky and the victim mentality types, also play on those same fears.
I do want to point out that Socialism is not Communism and it actually works somewhat well in one dimensional societies. People in Austria, for example, aren't living in fear or aren't held back from living in freedom. There's a difference. Also, Communism has roots in violence, while Socialism does not.
I wouldn't last 2 seconds in Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Venezuela, etc. There's a reason why so few civilizations adopt Communism. It's the greatest gimmick and scam of all time. It takes the ideas of a king and queen/absolute monarchy and puts in the hands of a group of buddies, so to speak. It's a clique of the very, very few. But, just because it's not represented by a king and queen, the people think they're being represented. Sad, but true.
Little Ricky would not even be able to type or say half the things he just did on this thread without some sort of harrassment in those countries I just listed.
It's sad that those kinds of countries are corrupted and brainwashed to live the way they do, but it's all because of fear and centuries of living slightly worse than they do now.
I was not referring to social democratic political parties who do not try to subvert their national constitutions (like Allende in Chile who consistently violated Chile's constitution). If a socialist democratic party participates in fair elections and willingly gives up power when it loses I do not consider it communist. I refer to communists as followers of Lenin and the communist international which never supported any democratic aims. Otherwise we finally agree on something. Thank you.