Re: offtopic: that may have been the BEST state of the union speech EVER! if BB used it, would be looking at a RING?
posted at 1/30/2014 2:46 PM EST
In response to portfolio1's comment:
In response to Quagmire3's comment:
speech was as horrible as the P OS who gave it. Wanting to continue to circumvent the constitution to push his ilberal socailist agenda? Commy you are clearly on welfare, food stamps, and collecting SSI if you suport this do osh.
I was not going to say anything in this thread but Quag, I am sorry but I have to respond to what you said. I have heard several comments regarding Executive Orders and other so called menas of "circumventing the Constitution." Quag, you do not have to like the guy but that is simply a double standard with zero basis. FIRST - Executive Orders are a part of our Constitutional governement, SECOND - This President has made fewer executive orders than any other President since before WWI (!!!!). Fewest...
Let me add that I do not think highly of Obama as a Preseident. I have some strong criticisms of Obama but the worst of those are applicable to the two major parties in general and the transformation of our Democrary into a bought and paid for rule of big money interests where you and I are the losers. Ironically there is a great deal of common ground between voters on the left and the right in that both are realizing that democracy has taken some great blows and is in grave danger. Even more ironic is that saving it will REQUIRE all of us across the entire spectrum of voters to come together on this. Without the power of all of us together there is no saving this and there is no getting this back. But Quag, I am sorry but the gross exaturations and demonizations are created to sell advertisement dollars by ginning up outrage, anger, indignation. Actual truth is traded for "facts" that fit the talking points.
I hope what I am saying will cause some to consider the possibility that we really do need to come together on the most basic ills that inflict our Constitutional democracy. I hope you can withhold your doubts or even disdain for anything I have said that triggers it long enough to truly consider what I am saying.
I may not read this thread again. I expect it will turn into another hotbed of anger. And what we actually need is unity... to put aside our other (great) differences temporarily in order to restore the rule of demcracy.
Quagmire did not say a word about executive orders. I believe he was referring to the Obamacare laws that were written into law exactly as the POTUS wanted them to be, and then when he saw what an unmitigated disaster was unfolding, he unilaterally declared that portions of the law do not need to be followed. And then in his speech, he esentially said f--- congress, I'm going to do whatever I want from here on out, regardless of them. That is circumventing the constitution.