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    BradyMossFan bringing up the allegation from last off season is stupid cause that girl was clearly insane, she told friend she wanted to have his babies and that is a FACT. Her own friend went to the police to let them know she was a little crazy.

    As for this case maybe a person with no lawyer or a person with a bad lawyer might end getting thrown in jail for this but I wouldn't have a problem beating these charges. Anyone of those girls could have had a fake ID saying she was 21 so saying he got under aged kids booze is not easy to prove because if they were underage what were they doing in the bar in the first place? so that crime falls on the owner of the bar not Big Ben so bam no prison on that count. And any good lawyer could keep an average joe out of jail on the poor evidence of this case. they could not prove with out a doubt that he raped her. So i dont think money played a big part in this at all i think I could have beaten this charge and i dont even make 40 grand a year right now.
     
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    BradyMossFan bringing up the allegation from last off season is stupid cause that girl was clearly insane, she told friend she wanted to have his babies and that is a FACT. Her own friend went to the police to let them know she was a little crazy. As for this case maybe a person with no lawyer or a person with a bad lawyer might end getting thrown in jail for this but I wouldn't have a problem beating these charges. Anyone of those girls could have had a fake ID saying she was 21 so saying he got under aged kids booze is not easy to prove because if they were underage what were they doing in the bar in the first place? so that crime falls on the owner of the bar not Big Ben so bam no prison on that count. And any good lawyer could keep an average joe out of jail on the poor evidence of this case. they could not prove with out a doubt that he raped her. So i dont think money played a big part in this at all i think I could have beaten this charge and i dont even make 40 grand a year right now.
    Posted by MVPKilla2009

    Your wrong on a few counts let me tell you why.  Im living here in Florida case in point a friend of mine just 6 years ago went to visit his ex wife, she got drunk, they had sex he left the next day. 3 days later the cops were at his door and arrested him for rape. He did bond out went to trial and got 9 years for non consexual sex and rape of a person intoxicated that could not say no or yes. He may get out next year but may not. He had a very expensive lawyer and it got him no where. She had no marks on her body or cuts and we all know she set him up because he left her.   At any point Ben is guilty of deliquency to a minor with the booze. Fake ID does not matter. They dont have to prove beyond a doubt that he raped her, she was drunk, underage, and had his DNA if what I read is correct.She claims she said no, and in a court of law that is pretty powerful stuff in Florida. There are many rape cases gone through the courts with much less than this information that got convictions.....
    Either way, he is guilty of having sex with an underage girl in a bar, she was too intoxicated to give proper concent. Now his handlers, lawyers or who ever can say hey he didnt get charged, but please, he is guilty as the day is long. Harley said it right, this guy needs to be in a clinic somewhere getting medical attention because his behaviour is headed down the very wrong road
     
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    Stomper I see what you are saying but the laws in FL might not the same as in GA. And you keep saying underage like she was 16 or something she was 20 so she was of age to have sex with who ever she wants but not old enough to drink.

    So if the laws are different in GA then they are in FL then maybe they cant charge him simply cause she was drunk. Plus the cops did not take his DNA so I dont see how that can be held against him he didnt have to give his DNA so they cant use it against him in court. And how can you say having a fake ID does not matter? If she said she was 21 to get into the bar then she is able to buy booze inside so how does that fall on him? It is the bar's responsibility to card the people buying booze and also if he did not know she was underage then that too is in his favour because its not his job to ID people in a bar.
     
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    What amazes me is how many times he's been accused.

    I can understand one random shakedown artist, but after a few times you have to at least wonder if the guy is dumb if not shady.
     
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    Plus the cops did not take his DNA so I dont see how that can be held against him he didnt have to give his DNA so they cant use it against him in court.

    Posted by MVPKilla2009


    Killa...And this is the first thing that makes me believe there is a cover-up!  BR was NEVER interviewed like they said he was going to be & they never got a sample of his DNA, via hair or whatever.  To me, in this day & age, giving BR's  DNA and his interview is the first step to prove his INNOCENCE!
     
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    However, I am pretty sure if TB was charged, we would all rally around him saying she is just a money grubbing gold digger looking for a payout. 
    Posted by MordecaiBloodmoon


    The difference is TB NEVER has put himself in a position like BR has time & time again.  If you can't see it as a pattern, then something is wrong!  BR has been acting this way in college & it is well documented.  I bet BR convinced the Steelers before they drafted him, that he was done with all his partying, just to get drafted & now he's just done nothing but feed them crow!
     
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    I think physical/sexual abuse of a woman or child is one of the most disgusting things a male can do. Note I didn't say man, because a man would never do such a thing. I've been with, and around enough women/girls to know how devious they can be and what they are capable of. I'm not sexist. But I'm not naive either. However, when it comes to rape or physical abuse I would rather err on the side of caution and give them the benefit of doubt. If a woman tells me she was raped or beaten, my first instinct is to believe her.

    Yes guys do get falsely accused, but there are some rules of thumb that single guys should follow that can usually keep you safe:

    1) The most important rule of all- stay away from crazy chicks. This seems obvious, but a lot of guys don't. Crazy chicks will usually send you some kind of signal pretty early on that their elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. Even if it's just something as subtle as you feeling like something is "off" Don't ignore it. Dump her- even if the sex is amazing. The longer you date a crazy chick the worse the breakup will be. You can't fix her or save her. Just get away. Trust your friends. If all your guy friends tell you she's a psycho- she is.

    2) See number one. Any girl under the age of 21 is probably evil, crazy, or both.
     
    3) Don't bang half drunk 20 year old strangers in a bar/nightclub. Seems pretty obvious to me. The Girls Gone Wild type sleaze factor involved in banging/raping a drunk girl is off the charts. Even if she was sober enough to realize what she was doing, what do you think is going to happen when the BF finds out? When faced with getting dumped or falsely accusing some guy of rape there are  girls that would point the finger.
     
    Anyway, I think Ben is a dirtbag and a rapist. Look at all the women Tiger slept with. Yet none of them accused him of rape- and he's worth a hell of a lot more than Ben and has a lot more to lose in endorsements, not to mention his wife. Even if he doesn't love her she could take him to the cleaners. He would be a great blackmail target. If I were running the Steelers, Ben would be gone before the draft. My problem with the league suspending him is that he hasn't been convicted of anything.

    Now that we're almost done with the insane Brandon Marshall threads we can start pining for Big Ben. I mean, character doesn't matter, right? And Brady is getting old.

    I wait with breathless anticipation for the first "Let's trade a second rounder for Ben Rothlisberger" thread. I can feel it coming. Any day now. I'm so excited! We can follow it up with classics like "The Patriots would be stupid not to trade for Big Ben" and so on. Let's get started, guys.
     
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    oh geez il say it.

    if ben was black, he would be gone for year and we all know it.  he is an accused rapist and its he is not even punished. 

     
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    oh geez il say it. if ben was black, he would be gone for year and we all know it.  he is an accused rapist and its he is not even punished. 
    Posted by btownteamsrking

    As far as I know the NFL has never suspended players based on accusations.  Arrests- yes, which does not make them guilty, but thus far Ben has not been even been arrested.  Moss was accused of assault on what was probably a bogus accusation, he wasn't suspended.  Same thing, and last I checked Moss is black.  Ben may be guilty, but the NFL can't punish him unless there is more than an accusation.
     
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    MVPKILLA , in the report that was just made public it says that his bodyguard dragged a drunk girl in a bathroom. Thats pretty serious to me , when I heard that I lost whatever respect I had left for him. And I think thats the detail that gets him 4 games.
     
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    Roger G. needs to step up to the plate in a major way on this one.  The question is will he?
     
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    And also again although I agree with you that he did it, they cant prove it and what Mike Vick did was proved with out a shadow of a doubt and thats why he went to jail. You cant ban him for a year when he was not charged with anything and that is just a fact. If he was charged i would say the same thing but in the eyes of the court he is innocent so they can not ban him from the NFL.
    Posted by MVPKilla2009


    Not quite.

    The NFL is a private organization and isn't subject to constitutional standards or legal procedures. They can ban any player at any time based on their own ules, regardless of whether he's been arrested or convicted.

    Vick involved a completely different situation from rapekisberger. Vick was charged with a crime, tried, convicted and sent to jail. The NFL had nothing to do with all that but they also suspended him based on their own rules.

    Guys get suspended all the time for acts that may or may not be criminal, like violating the league's substance abuse policy. Pacman Jones had been suspended numerous times for violating the league's "conduct policy".

    With all the problems and accusations against rapelisberger, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him suspended from the NFL under the conduct policy, just for making the NFL look bad.
     
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    What amazes me is how many times he's been accused. I can understand one random shakedown artist, but after a few times you have to at least wonder if the guy is dumb if not shady.
    Posted by NickC1188


    That's hitting the nail on the head. Personally, from everything I've read, I think the guy is a complete sleaze. He rolls with his own entourage, including off-duty cops, who know exactly how to sterilize a crime scene and intimidate witnesses. 

    I've also read about his exploits in college and that he had basically the same MO there, treating women like his own personal  toys.

    I think he's going to get a suspension just for making the NFL look bad. Hope its a long one.
     
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    I always joke in here and try to have fun, but I wonder what all of you think as football fans on a very serious issue. It's not about the Patriots but about Ben Rothlesburger. I stated before that I can take the Fighters, the drunks, even the guys that shoot themselves or foolishly carry guns around, but this goes way beyond that....... The most serious issue would be that if any of you here in these forums were charged with what he has done, you would be arrested, put in jail most likely without bond, then if found guilty serve 7 to 12 years in prison and then be labeled a sexual predator for the rest of your life. At the very least Mike Vick sevred prison time for what he did, but what seems to be with Ben R is a pattern showing that he goes out to track these kinds of women down where he can use his status and people to do his bidding. Without a doubt he is stalking a prey. In my opinon he should be banned from the NFL for at least a year and made to seek treatment. I could be wrong and way off here but he has all the makings of a serial rapist  (anyone interested he is a link that fits Big Ben very well...... http://www.paralumun.com/issuesprofile.htm )
    Posted by Stompper

    There's a pattern of behavior with him that's disturbing. Ben Roethlisberger apparently is incapable of using the sense that god gave him. For an individual with a civil lawsuit still in the process from another sexual encounter - he goes out and gets into even more trouble. It speaks volumes that you have police officers accompanying you to a nightclub, but you just can't seem to keep the (ho's) away. By the way that's not my description of the woman in question. 

    Cops making comments about victims that are less than flattering gives argument to rape victims view that they'll be ostracized for coming forward, but I digress. Before his latest run in with the po po, Ben told anyone who'd listen he was a changed man...
    I think a great deal of players are going to look at how Goodell handles this latest episode and the punishment levied. 


     
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    Whatever happened, if it was rape or just plying underage girls with lots of liquor, blocking them from leaving and not letting their friends retrieve them (so close to rape as to be indistiguishable) he is pretty much a rapist.  Charges, no charges, whatever.  We all know why the girl didn't press them, and the DA even said the facts all pointed to very poor behavior by Roethlisberger.  He should be suspended for at LEAST one year, and I would make him undergo therapy before I let him back in the NFL.  The Pennsylvania state trooper who was part of his entourage should be fired or suspended.  Same with the other policeman in his group.  Rounding up drunk young ladies and isolating them is wrong.  This is serious, and even more than someone like Pacman, the behavior is always borderline criminal.  For you who say she and the others are "gold diggers" shame on you first, and second, even if it were true, the FACTS as reported by the police and all parties involved indicate REALLY aggresive behavior by him.  To the gentleman who is a policeman who works in sex crimes, I feel sorry for anyone who comes in contact with you in your work, with an attitude like that.  
     
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    Stomper although I agree with you that he raped that girl and he is a dirt bag him me or you it does not matter no one would go to jail with the details of the case. She willingly went into a mens room with him and beyond that we dont know what happened and if that was the case and i was arrested i would get off and so would you money has nothing to do with it. But IMO he raped that girl but she cant prove it and its not what you did its what you can prove.
    Posted by MVPKilla2009


    Killa...she didn't "willingly" go with him. She was "escorted" by a bodyguard to a side room/hallway. He tried advancing, she said NO and she left and exited to the first room she came across, i.e the Lady's bathroom where Ben followed her into the LADY'S bathroom, closed and LOCKED the door. Where's the Willing part? She was DRAGGED!
    Let's see, Ben buys young underage women shots and strongly encouraged the immature young ladies to get drunk. After they're intoxicated, one of them gets dragged to a room, where Ben physically imposes himself on a young, immature, unable to protect herself, woman.
    What's part of this DOESN'T scream SEXUAL PREDATOR ??
     
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    This just updated and starts to spell big trouble for this idiot BR
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/380016-things-could-get-much-worse-before-better-for-ben-roethlisberger
     
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    one word: wife Ben, get a wife
     
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