Once again, entire NFL fan base disagrees with NE fan base

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    Re: Once again, entire NFL fan base disagrees with NE fan base

    Maybe because you just made up what the NFL fanbase says?

    NFL fanbase: BJesuss knows nothing

    Why is it you disagree with the entire NFL Fanbase?

    That was fun, I like to make up facts and then ask why nobody knows them.  It makes me feel super smart like a Jets fan.
     
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    Fanbase of one
     
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    NFL fan base - Hernandez smokes a lot of pot, can a dope fiend learn the complex NE offense? NE fans - So what the guy does drugs, what's the big deal?  NFL Fan base - Pats had an average draft once again and neglected to fill some holes even with all those picks.  NE fans: Pats had the best draft any team could ever have hoped for.  Clearly, we are superbowl bound once we get 10 more rookies on the field. NFL fan base: AT is still a solid player, but was not used in the same way he was successful in Baltimore, not to mention, he had a good 1 1/2 years before sustaining a broken arm.  It's likely that some combination of the Patriots and AT were responsible for what has shown to be a very poor signing.. NE fans: AT is a cancer becasue he questioned BB.  BB does not make mistakes, therefore it must be entirely ATs fault. NFL fan base - The Jets have filled many holes this off season while gettting overall younger at the RB position, defensive backfield, and offensive line all while cutting long term salary  in preparation for resigning some of their excellent draft picks from the last few years. NE fans- Jets have dismantled every thing they put together last year while adding players that will tear that locker room apart. .  It is ridiculous to try to get younger gradually.  Why would any team cut a 33 year old offensive lineman and a 32 year old running back and a running back coming of a triple fracture of his leg. There is no way the premier offensive line coach in the NFL could  again have a dominant running game using different players.  How is it that the Pats fans are so much smarter and more knowledeable than the rest of the NFL fans?
    Posted by bjesuss


    Ok lets go through this 1 at a time

    1) There are some people concerned with Hernadez's failed drug test but as a 4th round pick he's a low risk high reward prospect.

    2) Where have you even heard this? Most grades I've read say the Pats were one of the big winners. The lowest grade I've seen was a B while most had them at -A

    3) Look at AT's production, except for 07' not worth the price paid at all. He also made comments and was a heathy bench for a game because of what he was saying in the clubhouse. So yeah he was a cancer. Want proof? Well the Jets, that's right the team taking on cancer and problem childern with AD's former coach said they currently aren't looking to sign him. Maybe down the road but not right now

    4) The strongest point of the Jets O last season was the running game. That is fact esp with Sanchez having a below average QB year. Switching Jones for LT is a loss, that is not opinion that is fact given their last 2 years numbers. Washington was you best change of pace back and your best returner on ST's. He's replaced by an unproven rookie. Your best pro bowl run blocking OL man was released making the OL weaker without replacement. All this points to the Jets running game getting weaker. Considering they bearly backed into the playoffs with their running game so strong they will have a much tougher time doing it this year with a weaker running game.

    So tell me are the fans you polled stupid or just bandwagon fans who don't actually understand the game and just looks at the names?
     
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    "Maybe because you just made up what the NFL fanbase says?"

    Lmao...that's seriously good stuff.

     
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    How is it that New England fans are smarter than other NFL fans?...I dunno...nobody in New England thinks our school systems are any good, but the truth is they look like Harvard Medical compared to the rest of the country's public achools...next question....
     
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    NE fan base: The Jets are a pathetic franchise that has not been to the Super Bowl in 41 years and probably won't get back for another 41 years.

    NFL fan base: The Jets are a pathetic franchise that has not been to the Super Bowl in 41 years and probably won't get back for another 41 years.
     
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    "NE fans: AT is a cancer becasue he questioned BB.  BB does not make mistakes, therefore it must be entirely ATs fault."

    bjesuss...don't be bstupid. Nobody said BB doesn't make mistakes.   Thomas called out BB through the media.  He acted like a fool and deserved to be cut.
     
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    Bjesus if your going to post something like this have solid hard facts.   Vollmer, butler, chung will become major players for the patriots.  jury still out on brace and mckenzie. 

    true they had some bad drafts from 06-08 but I love the last 2 years.  based on your thoughts the pats should draft need over talent. 

    as for the jets, look no further than the washington redskins.  Adding high priced talent doesn't equal winning without chemistry.  good move by jets getting rid of washington, that was going to cause problems with LT who is done.  Cromartie was great as a rookie but has since been way below average, why do you think they drafted a CB number one overall. 

    BB isn't perfect but I would take him over anybody else in the NFL today. 

    when was the last time a preseason paper champion actually won it all?


     
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    This just in: Any teams fans are going to bash the moves of division rivals, duh. Moron.
     
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    NFL fan base - Hernandez smokes a lot of pot, can a dope fiend learn the complex NE offense? NE fans - So what the guy does drugs, what's the big deal?  NFL Fan base - Pats had an average draft once again and neglected to fill some holes even with all those picks.  NE fans: Pats had the best draft any team could ever have hoped for.  Clearly, we are superbowl bound once we get 10 more rookies on the field. NFL fan base: AT is still a solid player, but was not used in the same way he was successful in Baltimore, not to mention, he had a good 1 1/2 years before sustaining a broken arm.  It's likely that some combination of the Patriots and AT were responsible for what has shown to be a very poor signing.. NE fans: AT is a cancer becasue he questioned BB.  BB does not make mistakes, therefore it must be entirely ATs fault. NFL fan base - The Jets have filled many holes this off season while gettting overall younger at the RB position, defensive backfield, and offensive line all while cutting long term salary  in preparation for resigning some of their excellent draft picks from the last few years. NE fans- Jets have dismantled every thing they put together last year while adding players that will tear that locker room apart. .  It is ridiculous to try to get younger gradually.  Why would any team cut a 33 year old offensive lineman and a 32 year old running back and a running back coming of a triple fracture of his leg. There is no way the premier offensive line coach in the NFL could  again have a dominant running game using different players.  How is it that the Pats fans are so much smarter and more knowledeable than the rest of the NFL fans?
    Posted by bjesuss


    We're smarter because our team has done things like win 3 super bowls over the last ten years. Your team last won one when Joe Namth was on the Brady Bunch.
     
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    In Response to Once again, entire NFL fan base disagrees with NE fan base: This post presents reality. So true. So very true.
    NFL fan base - Hernandez smokes a lot of pot, can a dope fiend learn the complex NE offense? NE fans - So what the guy does drugs, what's the big deal?  NFL Fan base - Pats had an average draft once again and neglected to fill some holes even with all those picks.  NE fans: Pats had the best draft any team could ever have hoped for.  Clearly, we are superbowl bound once we get 10 more rookies on the field. NFL fan base: AT is still a solid player, but was not used in the same way he was successful in Baltimore, not to mention, he had a good 1 1/2 years before sustaining a broken arm.  It's likely that some combination of the Patriots and AT were responsible for what has shown to be a very poor signing.. NE fans: AT is a cancer becasue he questioned BB.  BB does not make mistakes, therefore it must be entirely ATs fault. NFL fan base - The Jets have filled many holes this off season while gettting overall younger at the RB position, defensive backfield, and offensive line all while cutting long term salary  in preparation for resigning some of their excellent draft picks from the last few years. NE fans- Jets have dismantled every thing they put together last year while adding players that will tear that locker room apart. .  It is ridiculous to try to get younger gradually.  Why would any team cut a 33 year old offensive lineman and a 32 year old running back and a running back coming of a triple fracture of his leg. There is no way the premier offensive line coach in the NFL could  again have a dominant running game using different players.  How is it that the Pats fans are so much smarter and more knowledeable than the rest of the NFL fans?
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    The bottom line is this: The Pats are being held together with chewing gum and bailing wire. Our star players have to carry more of the load and they are getting old. Very few truly quality replacements have filled the gaps. So we have good kickers...so what. A few good young players...so do the Lions every year. There are more holes in this team than in the last 10-12 years. You can plug them with numbers and if you have a solid cast of 14-15 studs, then mere numbers might work. But not with this current bunch. Also, BB's coaching is no longer so unique and innovative; he is no longer regularly out-planning everyone else. Maybe the Spygate factor no longer exists. But get used to it. All previous "dynasties" ended ugly. It is so hard to transition entire teams, particularly when you continually draft so late. If Brady goes down this year, then 2-14 is possible.
    In Response to Re: Once again, entire NFL fan base disagrees with NE fan base : I'm not sure you actually know what 'backing into the playoffs' means.  And I am positive that I don't knwo what BEARLY means.  Backing in by winning 5 of 6?  Backing in by crushing a team 31-0, a team that could have improved thier playoff positon.  Instead of Baltimore getting that cakewalk against NE, it could have been the Bengals, right? Re: Hernandez "He had multiple positive tests, so he either had issues or he's dumb," one longtime NFL executive told the Globe. "One or two tests? Fine. But four, five, six? Come on, now you've got an addiction. He's not a bad kid. He just has an issue.'' Is this the vaunted BB kind of player?  What happened to all the 'character' talk we've heard so much about?  'Stupid' is the new 'character' AT was leading the team in sacks when he broke his arm.  No big deal, though, LBs don't need arms.  Let's see, Mike T says the Jets have no plans to sign him, he also had no plans to trade Leon or cut Faneca.  When you have a young running back that shows promise and a 30+ running back (see the Curtis Martin/Lamont Jordan transition)that is DECREASING production from the previous year, you make the switch.  LT did not replace TJ, LT is the backup, not to mention a backup that can catch the ball, which neither Greene or TJ are very good at.  Where was TJ in the playoffs when everyone else was playing great? Leon was a non factor last year and there were zero gaurantees he would have been anywhere close to the same player.  If he was still such a talent, why didn't anyone take hime for a 2nd round tende or why didn't a team grab him for somehting more than a 7th at the draft?.  Do you remember that Denver offensive line that just kept producing backs?  Every year another great runner and every year stupid fans would say, why did they get rid of Davis? Gary? Portis? Anderson? It was about an 8 year stretch where they just kept replacing backs and lineman.  How?  Shannahan & Alex Gibbs knew how to run the ball.  You, unlike the rest of football, think that it's a good thing to hold on to players until they expire.    When the best offensive line coach in football says 'this guy is declining fast' you listen.  By the way, when Faneca was signed a couple of years ago, this board was full of "how stupid the Jets are signing a washed up Faneca" Funny how all that has changed.  Then again, that was the same thing said about Jones. How'd that turn out?So, basically, the Patriots roster is full of UNPROVEN rookies and 2nd year guys and this means they are going to the superbowl, the Jets replace 3 or 4 with rookies and they are doomed.  Do you see the stupidity in that argument?
    Posted by bjesuss

     
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    base fan for a fan base
     
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    fair enough about the high priced talent.  Not well said by me, however 5 million for over the hill L.T and braylon edwards at I think 6 or 8 million and jason taylor at 3.75 million I think would qualify.  I guess a better way to say it would be the addition of multiple veterens rarely works.  The pats did it in 01 as a salary cap dump season and won the super bowl.  outside of that I can't remember it working.  The bucs tried for years with a qb then a wr, but you know what worked for them the coach.

    on paper the jets look great, but as we saw with the patriots last year chemistry is huge.  You really think L.T, braylon edwards, santonio holmes, antonio cromartie won't implode.  You need talent, but character is what determines championships. 

    Not to mention the second year slump, can't explain it, but it always happens.  They will be tough, but really in the NFL they are all talented, it comes down to desire and coaching. 
     
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    Who really gives a fkuc about the Jets?  Great, they're adding talented players -- woohoo.  I don't spend my time on this board breaking down the moves of the Jets.  If you think everybody who posts here isn't objective, that's your opinion.  Why not go to the Jets board and talk about how dumb you think we are there?  Your post makes you look pretty envious and defensive. 
     
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    How did Fred Kirsch say it? "Embrace The Hate In '08". Dang, and its already two years removed. I guess he meant from now until infinity. Wow, the Pats must have had a good draft in the eyes of the rest of the world. Go '10 Pats!!!
     
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    Frankly, I have gotten so used to other teams' hatred (read = envy) of the Pats' organization and its fans...that it would be worrisome if the day should come when these hating (= envious) fans applaud anything that New England does!

    The more its haters rant, rave, gnash their teeth, and pull their hair out...the better the pats' must be doing.
     
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    Frankly, I have gotten so used to other teams' hatred (read = envy) of the Pats' organization and its fans...that it would be worrisome if the day should come when these hating (= envious) fans applaud anything that New England does! The more its haters rant, rave, gnash their teeth, and pull their hair out...the better the pats' must be doing.
    Posted by DogenHanda


    Excellent point
     
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    What a loser

     
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    LOL, NFL fan base? where do you come up with this stuff?
     
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    In Response to Re: Once again, entire NFL fan base disagrees with NE fan base : I'm not sure you actually know what 'backing into the playoffs' means.  And I am positive that I don't knwo what BEARLY means.  Backing in by winning 5 of 6?  Backing in by crushing a team 31-0, a team that could have improved thier playoff positon.  Instead of Baltimore getting that cakewalk against NE, it could have been the Bengals, right? Re: Hernandez "He had multiple positive tests, so he either had issues or he's dumb," one longtime NFL executive told the Globe. "One or two tests? Fine. But four, five, six? Come on, now you've got an addiction. He's not a bad kid. He just has an issue.'' Is this the vaunted BB kind of player?  What happened to all the 'character' talk we've heard so much about?  'Stupid' is the new 'character' AT was leading the team in sacks when he broke his arm.  No big deal, though, LBs don't need arms.  Let's see, Mike T says the Jets have no plans to sign him, he also had no plans to trade Leon or cut Faneca.  When you have a young running back that shows promise and a 30+ running back (see the Curtis Martin/Lamont Jordan transition)that is DECREASING production from the previous year, you make the switch.  LT did not replace TJ, LT is the backup, not to mention a backup that can catch the ball, which neither Greene or TJ are very good at.  Where was TJ in the playoffs when everyone else was playing great? Leon was a non factor last year and there were zero gaurantees he would have been anywhere close to the same player.  If he was still such a talent, why didn't anyone take hime for a 2nd round tende or why didn't a team grab him for somehting more than a 7th at the draft?.  Do you remember that Denver offensive line that just kept producing backs?  Every year another great runner and every year stupid fans would say, why did they get rid of Davis? Gary? Portis? Anderson? It was about an 8 year stretch where they just kept replacing backs and lineman.  How?  Shannahan & Alex Gibbs knew how to run the ball.  You, unlike the rest of football, think that it's a good thing to hold on to players until they expire.    When the best offensive line coach in football says 'this guy is declining fast' you listen.  By the way, when Faneca was signed a couple of years ago, this board was full of "how stupid the Jets are signing a washed up Faneca" Funny how all that has changed.  Then again, that was the same thing said about Jones. How'd that turn out?So, basically, the Patriots roster is full of UNPROVEN rookies and 2nd year guys and this means they are going to the superbowl, the Jets replace 3 or 4 with rookies and they are doomed.  Do you see the stupidity in that argument?
    Posted by bjesuss
    I won't argue with you I'll simply say that the best QB is presently playing in New England. Two of the top ten receivers are presently on the Patriots roster and the WR with the most receptions in the last 3 years is also still a member of this Offense. so with all that said I doubt very seriously the Patriots have fallen backwards,and as I recall they are the defending AFC East champs not the NYJ,on the subject of backing in well that is another topic. Lets just say 2 of the Jests final victories were gifts from their opponents as both teams laid down rather than play their starters. You call it what ever you want.
     
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    bejesus- "I'm not sure you actually know what 'backing into the playoffs' means.  And I am positive that I don't knwo what BEARLY means.

    But at least you know what "knwo" means!
     
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    In Response to Re: Once again, entire NFL fan base disagrees with NE fan base :  Is 16-0, 11-5, 10-6 getting better?
    Posted by bjesuss


    Certainly better than 4-12, 9-7, and 9-7! Our worst record of those three is still better than your best record during that 3 yr span.
    Man, this dude is like shooting fish in a barrel, even easier than Leon!
     

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