Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ
posted at 2/25/2014 6:54 AM EST
In response to UWhuskiesAJM's comment:
So, in short to sum up your high horse rant about morality. Prejudice/discrimination is bad which I think most rational people feel. What you fail to address is the basic argument here. Do business owners have the right to sell their services to whomever they choose?
The question is whether business owners should be allowed to turn people away (as customers or employees) simply because they disapprove of the person's sexual orientation, gender, race, etc. This was a regular business practice for years in this country, where white businessmen refused to serve or hire blacks. The practice was highly damaging to a large group of people. The "right" to not serve or hire blacks, gays, women, etc. has no social benefit, while the right of all people to have full access to services and jobs has immense social benefit. The trade off between a trivial and useless "right" and an immensely beneficial one is not a difficult trade off to make.
Our economy is built upon the freedom of the marketplace and basic capitalism principles.
If people don't have access to markets because of their gender, race, sexual orientation, etc., we don't have truly free markets.
Capitalism, by the way, was never once mentioned by the founding fathers. It's a bit of a stretch to say that "capitalism" is a basic priniciple underlying the Constitution. It isn't.
Our country was also built upon the freedom of religion. To openly force a business owner to support something that is fundamentally against their beliefs is far more intolerant then anything else.
To allow discrimination is far more damaging to a healthy society.
What many of the MSNBC sheeple here going on and on about equality of men need to step back and realize what that means. Equality does not only mean that our populace should be blind to color, race, sex, religion. It also means we have the right to practice our beliefs, religion, freely. By placing one groups beliefs above another based on your own self inflated opinions is wrong. Businesses should have the right to sell their services to whomever they choose.
They shouldn't have the right to deny people services or jobs based on race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Such practices have, in the past, proven to be very damaging to large groups within society. There's absolutely no reason to bring such damaging practices back.
The fact is, this law is being pushed by a fundamentalist Christian lobbying group (Center for Arizona Policy) that is anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-divorce, anti-evolution, anti-birth control, anti-invitro fertilization, anti-gambling, anti-stem cell research, etc. Don't be naive. This isn't about "freedom"--it's about making fundamentalist Christian dogma the law of the land.