OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

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    It is truly amazing that someone today can take ANY freedom and try to make it an absolute. FOr example, there is such thing as freedom of speech but there is also something called liable or slander. You also cannot scream FIRE in a crowded theater as a joke. You can take essentially ANY freedom and show that there is a limit to it.

    ANd so it is with this issue. Descrimination is NOT OK. It is and should be against the law. You dont like it than perhaps you would like to burn the Bill of Rights...

    It is amazing how many people cant think beyond the most simplistic of positions. EVERY SINGLE RIGHT has the capability of butting heads with someone else's rights of one sort or another. And so we have to be able to adjudicate, to weigh them against each other in a JUST and EQUITABLE fashion.

    It is NOT OK for a hotel to refuse a room to someone because of their race - or their religion - or their gender, etc. If you really dont like that concept I can suggest several countries whose laws support blatant descrimination... you might find yourself more at home in that case.

     



    I think that the people who all responded to me above ar Millennials who generally aren't fond of reading books.

    Hey, the NAZIs infamously burned books, too. lol

     



    I cant say whether the apes thumping their chests are young or old or both... but it is a clear case of a COMPLETE lack of understanding of what the Constitution and America is and was all about. Brainless and thoughtless and simply clueless.

     



    I think APats22 is in his early/mid 20s and something tells me the other two are as well. They come off very immature and lacking the ability to understand concepts here on a regular basis.

    It;s fine to be younger and not know things, but to be so ignorant or not willing to learn, is very troublesome for that generation in particular.

    Babe, as we know, is a mid 60 something right wing nutjob deluxe who probably lives in Arizona and is writing a thank you letter to his geeky, four-eyed right wing nutty Congressman/woman as we speak.

     



    Quick, better add that bio scoop to your notebook of BDC members. 

     
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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

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    It is truly amazing that someone today can take ANY freedom and try to make it an absolute. FOr example, there is such thing as freedom of speech but there is also something called liable or slander. You also cannot scream FIRE in a crowded theater as a joke. You can take essentially ANY freedom and show that there is a limit to it.

    ANd so it is with this issue. Descrimination is NOT OK. It is and should be against the law. You dont like it than perhaps you would like to burn the Bill of Rights...

    It is amazing how many people cant think beyond the most simplistic of positions. EVERY SINGLE RIGHT has the capability of butting heads with someone else's rights of one sort or another. And so we have to be able to adjudicate, to weigh them against each other in a JUST and EQUITABLE fashion.

    It is NOT OK for a hotel to refuse a room to someone because of their race - or their religion - or their gender, etc. If you really dont like that concept I can suggest several countries whose laws support blatant descrimination... you might find yourself more at home in that case.

     



    I think that the people who all responded to me above ar Millennials who generally aren't fond of reading books.

    Hey, the NAZIs infamously burned books, too. lol

     



    I cant say whether the apes thumping their chests are young or old or both... but it is a clear case of a COMPLETE lack of understanding of what the Constitution and America is and was all about. Brainless and thoughtless and simply clueless.

     



    I think APats22 is in his early/mid 20s and something tells me the other two are as well. They come off very immature and lacking the ability to understand concepts here on a regular basis.

    It;s fine to be younger and not know things, but to be so ignorant or not willing to learn, is very troublesome for that generation in particular.

    Babe, as we know, is a mid 60 something right wing nutjob deluxe who probably lives in Arizona and is writing a thank you letter to his geeky, four-eyed right wing nutty Congressman/woman as we speak.

     




    What? I'm not saying I support it or think it's right but it's true it's still their choice. That's why it's not illegal. It's absolutely idiotic and something that needs to change but it's still their choice. Did either of you 2 read what I said?




    Nope they dont I said the samething.

     
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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

    "The bill was written by the Center for Arizona Policy and a Christian legal organization called the Alliance Defending Freedom. They were inspired, in part, by the case of a New Mexico wedding photographer who was taken to court after refusing to shoot a gay commitment ceremony."

    If the photographer doesn't want to take pictures of gay people partaking in a commitment ceremony then instead of getting all butt hurt (pun intended) then just hire a different photographer.  A discrimination court case over this is sad.  They are just as at fault with this as anyone.  Shame on them.  So their feelings got hurt, get over it. Hire a gay photographer. Problem solved.

    I don't shop at the corner quick stop because it smells bad in there.  It just happens to be operated by people from the middle east. Am I racist?  No, it smells.  I take my business somewhere it doesn't smell.  Do they have the right to sue me over that?

    A block away, the same thing but instead of the smell I can't understand a word the Asain owner is saying.  I won't go there until the guy can learn English.  Does he have a right to sue me over that?

     

     
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    "The bill was written by the Center for Arizona Policy and a Christian legal organization called the Alliance Defending Freedom. They were inspired, in part, by the case of a New Mexico wedding photographer who was taken to court after refusing to shoot a gay commitment ceremony."

    If the photographer doesn't want to take pictures of gay people partaking in a commitment ceremony then instead of getting all butt hurt (pun intended) then just hire a different photographer.  A discrimination court case over this is sad.  They are just as at fault with this as anyone.  Shame on them.  So their feelings got hurt, get over it.

    I don't shop at the corner quick stop because it smells bad in there.  It just happens to be operated by people from the middle east. Am I racist?  No, it smells.  I take my business somewhere it doesn't smell.  Do they have the right to sue me over that?

    A block away, the same thing but instead of the smell I can't understand a word the Asain owner is saying.  I won't go there until the guy can learn English.  Does he have a right to sue me over that?

     



    You are an idiot. You dont have a clue as to the actual topic.. the issues, the principles involved. Go to school for heavens sake and learn something.

     

     
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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

    In response to DeadAhead2's comment:

    In response to APpats22's comment:

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    In response to portfolio1's comment:

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    In response to portfolio1's comment:

    It is truly amazing that someone today can take ANY freedom and try to make it an absolute. FOr example, there is such thing as freedom of speech but there is also something called liable or slander. You also cannot scream FIRE in a crowded theater as a joke. You can take essentially ANY freedom and show that there is a limit to it.

    ANd so it is with this issue. Descrimination is NOT OK. It is and should be against the law. You dont like it than perhaps you would like to burn the Bill of Rights...

    It is amazing how many people cant think beyond the most simplistic of positions. EVERY SINGLE RIGHT has the capability of butting heads with someone else's rights of one sort or another. And so we have to be able to adjudicate, to weigh them against each other in a JUST and EQUITABLE fashion.

    It is NOT OK for a hotel to refuse a room to someone because of their race - or their religion - or their gender, etc. If you really dont like that concept I can suggest several countries whose laws support blatant descrimination... you might find yourself more at home in that case.

     



    I think that the people who all responded to me above ar Millennials who generally aren't fond of reading books.

    Hey, the NAZIs infamously burned books, too. lol

     



    I cant say whether the apes thumping their chests are young or old or both... but it is a clear case of a COMPLETE lack of understanding of what the Constitution and America is and was all about. Brainless and thoughtless and simply clueless.

     



    I think APats22 is in his early/mid 20s and something tells me the other two are as well. They come off very immature and lacking the ability to understand concepts here on a regular basis.

    It;s fine to be younger and not know things, but to be so ignorant or not willing to learn, is very troublesome for that generation in particular.

    Babe, as we know, is a mid 60 something right wing nutjob deluxe who probably lives in Arizona and is writing a thank you letter to his geeky, four-eyed right wing nutty Congressman/woman as we speak.

     




    What? I'm not saying I support it or think it's right but it's true it's still their choice. That's why it's not illegal. It's absolutely idiotic and something that needs to change but it's still their choice. Did either of you 2 read what I said?



    Umm, they just CREATED a law to MAKE IT LEGAL, which means it was illegal before, kid.

    You're doing what SoxRocks is doing which is not understanding what is going on here, but still forming a callous, flip flop position on it.

    As an American, you should be offended by that legislation on principle alone.



    If you have a right to shop where you want it should go the other way to they dont want you to shop there.Its a right to choice not to be told what you have to do.Your talking about nazis well in nazi world people couldnt choice thats what your doing.

     
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    Look guys...it's quite simple.

    Do you like the IRS coming after you based on where you stand?

    Do you like the Government spying on you? tracking your phone calls?

    This stuff happened.

    I don't care if you swing left or right....don't ever allow a system that expands the use of thought police.

    I am no fan of the word either....but I'm less of a fan of the slippery slope where many want to restrict speech. This is not yelling fire in a movie show but one group wanting to ban a word they don't like. Be careful....

     
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    You are an idiot. You dont have a clue as to the actual topic.. the issues, the principles involved. Go to school for heavens sake and learn something.

     



    I did. I learned I can do business with anyone I want to do business with. And I don't have to do business with anyone I don't want to do business with.  It's my money. It's my choice. I'm commenting on what I quoted.  You don't agree with me?

     
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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

    In response to Uncle Rico's comment:

    "The bill was written by the Center for Arizona Policy and a Christian legal organization called the Alliance Defending Freedom. They were inspired, in part, by the case of a New Mexico wedding photographer who was taken to court after refusing to shoot a gay commitment ceremony."

    If the photographer doesn't want to take pictures of gay people partaking in a commitment ceremony then instead of getting all butt hurt (pun intended) then just hire a different photographer.  A discrimination court case over this is sad.  They are just as at fault with this as anyone.  Shame on them.  So their feelings got hurt, get over it. Hire a gay photographer. Problem solved.

    I don't shop at the corner quick stop because it smells bad in there.  It just happens to be operated by people from the middle east. Am I racist?  No, it smells.  I take my business somewhere it doesn't smell.  Do they have the right to sue me over that?

    A block away, the same thing but instead of the smell I can't understand a word the Asain owner is saying.  I won't go there until the guy can learn English.  Does he have a right to sue me over that?

     



    Since you asked, most likely.

     

     
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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

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    I dont condone this but its america where you should have the right to do what you want with your own bussniness.We have the right to not shop at a store where we dont like so why not the same for a bussiness.Its about freedom and it goes both ways with this law if a black owner doesnt want to do bussiness with a white customer so be it they lose you as a customer.



    Those who misuse their freedom deserve to lose it.

     

     
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    OH...and to be clear, I reject the AZ law.

     
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    lol

    I don't Bustchise is racist, Prolate. I think he doesn't like be in a smelly environment when he shops.  Simple enough.

    However, he's a moron for comparing consumer choice to outright discrimination via a law.

     



    So back to the photographer.  If he thinks being gay is morally wrong, then he should still have to photograph a gay commencement?

     
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    Re: OT: Nuremberg Laws in AZ

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    My god, what's next?  Businesses and establishments don't have to do business with another minority group?

    It's disturbing and scary that there are states in this union, willing to go this far to throw religion and a sanctimonius right wing extremism, rivaling Hitler's Greatest Hits, with all of the problems that are out there.  Not to mention, how is that good for the economy in general, if you're isolating one pocket of society, refusing to do business with that section of society?  It's moronic.

    They rush to get legislation like that through, as the taxpayers watch those morons waste everyone's time and resources on solving real problems?  It's scary that some in this country want to backwards as opposed to forwards.

    Note to self:  Don't bother visiting Arizona for any reason.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/22/opinion/whitaker-arizona-law/



    The sound you hear is the thunderous applause from the citizens of AZ.

     
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    Sounds great, Hitler.



    Stay loose Trotsky.

     
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    Sounds great, Hitler.



    Stay loose Trotsky.




    Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

     
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    Does anyone but old dying folk live in Arizona ??

    49 states doesn't sound so bad.........

    We can always trade Arizona for Puerto Rico....

     
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    As for the moron photographer, Bustchise, he's a moron for refusing business as are states that do this sort of thing. It will eventually destroy potential for growing the economy in that state.

     



    You are okay with forcing someone to run their business your way? Are you insane? If they morally object, they have to do it anyway, because you consider it discrimination if they don't do it?  I say your discriminating against the photographers moral beliefs. Is there not another photographer that would take this job?  Of course there is.  So where is the loss of potential growth in the economy?

     
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    Sounds great, Hitler.



    Stay loose Trotsky.



    Terrible comeback since I detest Communism and think Socialism wouldn't work here/doesn't in larger societies.

    But, carry on, Hitler.

    Your state sucks too, by the way, if you do live there. Enjoy living in a crappy subdivision. lmao




    Actually Trotsky is a perfect moniker for you.  You don't get to pick it.  It gets chosen for you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC4C_Gcp_dM

    You are both ideologues who cling/clung to failed theories and beliefs (Tom Brady is the root of the Pats problems in your case).

    You both think/thought that you deserve more attention.

    How did it turn out for Trotsky?

     

    BTW:  The AZ law is bad legislation.

     
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