Ouch! But what do those guys know, right?

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    repeat, it's not the temperature, but the slow field.

    the 2012 game you reference the Broncos with a sore armed Manning put up 35 points and his QBR was 88.3

    the earlier games you reference were played in inclement weather and the field was a mess...

    the cold weather thing has been proven incorrect numerous times...it is the slow field that bothered those teams 

     



    Well, you'd fail as a scientist.   If you want to dismiss a variable as a causal factor (i.e. cold) you'd have to have evidence to support your theory.   You don't.

    As for me, I believe the windier the better.  I don't care about the temperature or rain as much as I think it favors the Pats more in wind.   TB throws a stronger ball and their attack is more short-range than PM's.

     
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    repeat, it's not the temperature, but the slow field.

    the 2012 game you reference the Broncos with a sore armed Manning put up 35 points and his QBR was 88.3

    the earlier games you reference were played in inclement weather and the field was a mess...

    the cold weather thing has been proven incorrect numerous times...it is the slow field that bothered those teams 

     



    Well, you'd fail as a scientist.   If you want to dismiss a variable as a causal factor (i.e. cold) you'd have to have evidence to support your theory.   You don't.

    As for me, I believe the windier the better.  I don't care about the temperature or rain as much as I think it favors the Pats more in wind.   TB throws a stronger ball and their attack is more short-range than PM's.



    I would agree cold is not usually an issue all by itself. The game tomorrow night will have steady winds at about 20 mph gusting over 25 at times add that in to temps in the mid 20's with wind chills in the high single digits low teens. Most likely not as cold as the Tenn playoff game but still cold enough to effect passes and catching the ball.

    I couldn't find exact stats but there were a few blogs from denver that claimed manning was 2-5 in games under 30 degrees and brady was something ridiculous like 23-2. The 2-5 to me is not the issue it is the fact manning has played less than 10 games in his career in weather like he will see tomorrow.

     
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    repeat, it's not the temperature, but the slow field.

    the 2012 game you reference the Broncos with a sore armed Manning put up 35 points and his QBR was 88.3

    the earlier games you reference were played in inclement weather and the field was a mess...

    the cold weather thing has been proven incorrect numerous times...it is the slow field that bothered those teams 

     



    Well, you'd fail as a scientist.   If you want to dismiss a variable as a causal factor (i.e. cold) you'd have to have evidence to support your theory.   You don't.

    As for me, I believe the windier the better.  I don't care about the temperature or rain as much as I think it favors the Pats more in wind.   TB throws a stronger ball and their attack is more short-range than PM's.



     
    Agree ,  Wind  will  eat up Paytons wobblers .  Occasionally they come down in the hands of his guys  ( remember that 4th down wounded duck to D thomas last year...?)  But more likely they will go the other way.

     
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    I did no realize rain was in the forecast. I knew it was going to be cold. Rain will completely make this a different game. It definitely could hamper DEN passing game. I say DEN because TB always played well in precipitation. Only question is if the receivers will hold on to the wet ball.

    Smother WW at the LOS, just enough for him to lose his footing a bit. That should disrupt the timing enough. All other passes will eb difficult for PM.




    No rain in the forecast just cold and windy. the forecast calls for temps in the mid 20's with a wind chill in the low teens/high single digits. very windy gusts up to 25mph.



    Gonna be delightful up in the third deck.  Bringing my Canadian winter clothes . . . 

 
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    I did no realize rain was in the forecast. I knew it was going to be cold. Rain will completely make this a different game. It definitely could hamper DEN passing game. I say DEN because TB always played well in precipitation. Only question is if the receivers will hold on to the wet ball.

    Smother WW at the LOS, just enough for him to lose his footing a bit. That should disrupt the timing enough. All other passes will eb difficult for PM.




    No rain in the forecast just cold and windy. the forecast calls for temps in the mid 20's with a wind chill in the low teens/high single digits. very windy gusts up to 25mph.



    Gonna be delightful up in the third deck.  Bringing my Canadian winter clothes . . . 



    We are lucky we are right below the where the 3rd deck ends in the 200's so we get the wind blocked at our backs. 

    Going to dig the cold weather gear out this afternoon. I am about a 1/2 hour from the stadium and the wind is already kicking up 15-20 mph and is supposed to be this way through monday morning.

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    No rain in the forecast just cold and windy. the forecast calls for temps in the mid 20's with a wind chill in the low teens/high single digits. very windy gusts up to 25mph.

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    Gonna be delightful up in the third deck.  Bringing my Canadian winter clothes . . . 

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    We are lucky we are right below the where the 3rd deck ends in the 200's so we get the wind blocked at our backs. 

    Going to dig the cold weather gear out this afternoon. I am about a 1/2 hour from the stadium and the wind is already kicking up 15-20 mph and is supposed to be this way through monday morning.

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    Would gladly put up with wind, rain, sleet and cold to be able to watch this game. Two of the greatest QBs of all time going at it once again. What could be better!!! You lucky dogs!

     
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    Manning froze out in the 4th quarter/OT of the Baltimore game last year.  It was obvious.  He looked miserable and didn't throw a ball downfield at all during that part of the game.  The cold weather sure got to him on that occasion.  Also, for what it is worth, he is 2-5 when the temp is below 32.  I don't know how things will play out Sunday, but the weather forecast makes it all the more interesting.

     
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    Cold weather and bad footing (rain or snow turf) usually means shorter routes and running game for the offense and might mean field position for some. My primary concern is the health of the Pats DBs and flushing Manning out of the pocket.

     
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    i have this feeling that the pats are gonna blow out the donkeys something like 38-17, but in all likelihood this will be a good game til the end so my pick is pats 31-donkeys 28. both defenses arent exactly inpenetrable, so i expect a pretty high scoring affair and i think the pats make the one stop at the end to preserve the win (hopefully).

     
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    I did no realize rain was in the forecast. I knew it was going to be cold. Rain will completely make this a different game. It definitely could hamper DEN passing game. I say DEN because TB always played well in precipitation. Only question is if the receivers will hold on to the wet ball.

    Smother WW at the LOS, just enough for him to lose his footing a bit. That should disrupt the timing enough. All other passes will eb difficult for PM.




    No rain in the forecast just cold and windy. the forecast calls for temps in the mid 20's with a wind chill in the low teens/high single digits. very windy gusts up to 25mph.



    Gonna be delightful up in the third deck.  Bringing my Canadian winter clothes . . . 



    We are lucky we are right below the where the 3rd deck ends in the 200's so we get the wind blocked at our backs. 

    Going to dig the cold weather gear out this afternoon. I am about a 1/2 hour from the stadium and the wind is already kicking up 15-20 mph and is supposed to be this way through monday morning.



    Snow squalls here in Toronto today.  Definitely feels like winter.  Can't wait for tomorrow night! 

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    I did no realize rain was in the forecast. I knew it was going to be cold. Rain will completely make this a different game. It definitely could hamper DEN passing game. I say DEN because TB always played well in precipitation. Only question is if the receivers will hold on to the wet ball.

    Smother WW at the LOS, just enough for him to lose his footing a bit. That should disrupt the timing enough. All other passes will eb difficult for PM.




    No rain in the forecast just cold and windy. the forecast calls for temps in the mid 20's with a wind chill in the low teens/high single digits. very windy gusts up to 25mph.



    Gonna be delightful up in the third deck.  Bringing my Canadian winter clothes . . . 



    We are lucky we are right below the where the 3rd deck ends in the 200's so we get the wind blocked at our backs. 

    Going to dig the cold weather gear out this afternoon. I am about a 1/2 hour from the stadium and the wind is already kicking up 15-20 mph and is supposed to be this way through monday morning.



    Snow squalls here in Toronto today.  Definitely feels like winter.  Can't wait for tomorrow night! 



    Ranks up there with one of the most anticipated regular season games in a while. It should be electric in the stadium... i hope the fans are up for this. I know i am.

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    Re: Ouch! But what do those guys know, right?

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    The artic weather front in Minnesota is headed this way...right now, at the Wisconsin vs. Minnesota game, it's 15 degrees  and with windchill, it's 6...coming our way...



    Their freezing their butts off.  That weather will make it by game time tomorrow. 

     
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    Clean sweep on the NFL network just now, 5 out of 5 picks for the Broncos.

    With all the injuries and question marks going into this game for the Pats, I certainly see why so many are picking the Bronco.

     
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