Packers @ Patriots REPORT CARD

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    Play of the game was easily Connolly's; pick sixes happen nearly every week, it's not often you get to see an OL run that far with the ball and he set a record that I highly doubt will be broken. Fair grades though, Pats were fortunate to get this win.
     
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    I can't say I disagree with your assessment except to say that you didn't take into account that Green Bay was a desperate team who needed this game more than the Pats when it all comes down to it. This loss really hurts their playoff chances. The Pats did not play well, or come to play if you will, but Green Bay's urgency cannot be diminished either. I'd give Brady a B- simply because if your QB leads what becomes the game winning drive that's worth something. It's also a fact that aside from Peyton Manning, Belichik teams struggle most against backup QBs they lack film for. This has happened so many times now, Colt McCoy being just one recent example, that you almost have to put that on the coach a bit more than the team. 

    Championship teams win games they are not supposed to win, so in some ways I liked this victory a lot. Also: there are some injured players who should return and strengthen the D....
     
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    I can't say I disagree with your assessment except to say that you didn't take into account that Green Bay was a desperate team who needed this game more than the Pats when it all comes down to it. This loss really hurts their playoff chances. The Pats did not play well, or come to play if you will, but Green Bay's urgency cannot be diminished either. I'd give Brady a B- simply because if your QB leads what becomes the game winning drive that's worth something. It's also a fact that aside from Peyton Manning, Belichik teams struggle most against backup QBs they lack film for. This has happened so many times now, Colt McCoy being just one recent example, that you almost have to put that on the coach a bit more than the team.  Championship teams win games they are not supposed to win, so in some ways I liked this victory a lot. Also: there are some injured players who should return and strengthen the D....
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker

    I think that winning 3 straight blowouts, the last two against top teams, and securing a playoff spot, the Pats almost to a man seemed to lack sufficient fire. Rodgers being out added to this lack of urgency.  Take a little edge off of each player and it sums up to what we saw. Also, players on D were out.  Even if some could have played, under the circumstances, it was a good strategic decision by BB to keep them out. It's also good for the team to be reminded of its vulnerability. We want to be at full strength and on fire for the playoffs  Not to worry.

     
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    A tough win is still a win. Pats Win!

    Go Pats!
     
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    12-2=A
     
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    Disagree entirely on the QB grade. Brady was excellent. I would seriously reconsider how you look at this particular game.

    Dude had a 110 rating and drove for the game winning score. They put up 24 points while having the ball for only 19 minutes and running only 43 plays. The defense essentially allowed GB (24th ranked running) to grind the clock all game long making a situation where TB and the offense needed to be perfect on each play -- and needed to do it in situations where they had to pass and GB knew they had to pass. By my count that was 3 drives that were six minutes or longer, one that was five minutes, and another for four and a half. In five long drives, GB occupied 29 minutes. That is five drives for 29 minutes -- a half a game in time on five drives. 

    If the defense does anything other than a couple of turnovers to keep the big yellow machine off the field, then this offense likely rolls up 400 yards and 4+ TDs against what you could argue is the NFL's finest defense. 

    Factor in, as well, that last point. GB is easily the best passing defense in the league, allowing less TDs (14) than INTs they create (18) and second in sacks (40) with fairly astounding efficiency stats against of 56.7% comp (5th) and a 70.6 QB rating (1st) and those numbers are AFTER Brady had two TDs and a 110 rating against them. So Tom drops 2 TDs a 63% completion rate, and a 110 rating with the game winning score on them ... and that is a C???????????

    It was a perfect storm for NE to lose, and Brady got it done. Welker dropping a pass right in his breadbasket on 2nd and 6 in the 4th doesn't detract from Brady's performance, but shows how perfect he has to be with a WR corp that is leading the NFL in drops per pass attempt.


    There was no game this season where TB made a better case for his excellence against pressure and his overall MVP candidacy. 
     
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    BB's game plan was to  make clay matthews a non factor so they always doubled him that was going to open the door for someone else.  we came out thinking this was going to be an automatic win for us   it took Connolly's play to wake up up
     
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    i think they got  too ahead of themselves    a win is a win but anymore efforts lke this  there done
     
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    Disagree entirely on the QB grade. Brady was excellent. I would seriously reconsider how you look at this particular game. Dude had a 110 rating and drove for the game winning score. They put up 24 points while having the ball for only 19 minutes and running only 43 plays. The defense essentially allowed GB (24th ranked running) to grind the clock all game long making a situation where TB and the offense needed to be perfect on each play -- and needed to do it in situations where they had to pass and GB knew  they had to pass. By my count that was 3 drives that were six minutes or longer, one that was five minutes, and another for four and a half. In five long drives, GB occupied 29 minutes. That is five drives for 29 minutes -- a half a game in time on five drives.  If the defense does anything other than a couple of turnovers to keep the big yellow machine off the field, then this offense likely rolls up 400 yards and 4+ TDs against what you could argue is the NFL's finest defense.  Factor in, as well, that last point. GB is easily the best passing defense in the league, allowing less TDs (14) than INTs they create (18) and second in sacks (40) with fairly astounding efficiency stats against of 56.7% comp (5th) and a 70.6 QB rating (1st) and those numbers are  AFTER  Brady had two TDs and a 110 rating against them. So Tom drops 2 TDs a 63% completion rate, and a 110 rating with the game winning score on them ... and that is a C??????????? It was a perfect storm for NE to lose, and Brady got it done. Welker dropping a pass right in his breadbasket on 2nd and 6 in the 4th doesn't detract from Brady's performance, but shows how perfect he has to be with a WR corp that is leading the NFL in drops per pass attempt. I agree with this guy:  http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&page=wojciechowski/101219&sportCat=nfl There was no game this season where TB made a better  case for his excellence against pressure and his overall MVP candidacy. 
    Posted by zbellino

    Z: I look forward to your football knowledge. I do have to question you on this though..

    They put up 24 points while having the ball for only 19 minutes and running only 43 plays.
    Is this not because of our offense not holding on to the ball? Why is this entirely on D?

    Brady had two TDs and a 110 rating against them.
    Well - Yesterday, I remeber seeing alteast 3 passes that he gift wrapped for the opposition, fortunately, THEY dropped it. 
    I believe Brady is one of the best QBs of all time, but yesterday, I thought he was more lucky than good.

    Overall, looking back, this was a thrilling (needlessly) game and I am glad we came out with a W. But, our guys (most of them) played below par.

     
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    BB clearly wasn't happy with any facet of the team's play or his preperation. I expect Goodell will be giving him a fine for mentioning the officiating in the post game press conference.
     
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    Your grades for OL, DL and linebackers are way too high. I suggest you rewatch the game to note how many missed tackles there were. Banta-Cain had perhaps his worst game as a Patriot; watch how many times he's completely taken out of the action or flat on his back.

    Football is blocking and tackling, and the Pats did a very poor job of both last night.


     
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    The key was that Brady was never really allowed to get into a rhythm. The Packers tried to keep him off the field and were largely successful. This is some of the best pressure Brady has seen all year (since Jets week 2) and he handled it reasonably well. It is pretty clear that the Jets D is overated and the Packers D is underated. If O'Brien calls more RB screens and uses the run game to set-up play action Brady might have been more successful. I think its safe to say that had Rodgers played the Packers would have had less balance on offense and more passing plays. Flynn played very well and I see this game as comparable to the time Feeley lit the Pats up in a back-up role. Had Flynn even played a game since the LSU title game ? Nothing but pre-season snaps to look at. Not whole lot of film to look at and therefore difficult to prepare for. It's a win and i'll gladly take it.
     
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    This was a good game for the Patriots.
    Unlike the Browns game when they lost, they played sloppy here and still
    came out with a win. They needed a game like this to get motivated.
    It's easy for a team, any team, to get motivated against the Steelers, Colts, Jets but it's hard against teams that are struggling or short handed. If Rogers had played, this would have been a different game on both sides.
    I said all along the Packers were gonna be one of the Pats biggest tests because of the defense. They haven't given up the lowest amount of points for a reason. 
    Tough game but at least it's a win.
    A Pats win and/or a Jets loss means the Pats clinch the number one seed !
     
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    Tex
    I think you were generous rating the D's performance (C, B-, B-). The D was leaky all night and got called for too many sloppy penalties that nearly lost the game for the Pats. We were lucky Aaron Rogers was not out there to exploit it.


     
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    The key was that Brady was never really allowed to get into a rhythm. The Packers tried to keep him off the field and were largely successful. This is some of the best pressure Brady has seen all year (since Jets week 2) and he handled it reasonably well. It is pretty clear that the Jets D is overated and the Packers D is underated. If O'Brien calls more RB screens and uses the run game to set-up play action Brady might have been more successful. I think its safe to say that had Rodgers played the Packers would have had less balance on offense and more passing plays. Flynn played very well and I see this game as comparable to the time Feeley lit the Pats up in a back-up role. Had Flynn even played a game since the LSU title game ? Nothing but pre-season snaps to look at. Not whole lot of film to look at and therefore difficult to prepare for. It's a win and i'll gladly take it.
    Posted by JohnHannahrulz


    Yea you're right. When a player hasn't played much then there isn't gonna much film to watch. This is why so many first timers play well the first few weeks and then fall apart;  game footage accumulates so teams are better prepared.

    Anyone remember Scott Mitchell ?

     
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    Flynn did handle himself well under the circumstances. Give the kid some credit. He's better than Sanchez.
     
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    As much as I think Brady is one of the best of all time, he wasn't at his best yesterday and was very lucky to come out of the game with the record streak intact, and to actually get the record. As others mention there were three passes that could of and should have been intercepted, but with all winning streaks, no hitters in baseball, records that are broken  there isalways a certain amount of good luck involved, but good teams like the Pats seems to make thier luck. As bad a Brady looked some times yesterday, he deserves credit as the Pack hit him numerous times, hurried him etc, and he did lead the game winning drive. He may be the best of one of the best in the NFL but even TB can have an off day, especially against the best ranked defense in the NFL.    
     
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