Panthers sign Mike Tolbert 4 years...

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    On the one hand, this Yasinskas (youngstinkass?) guy WAS the beat writer for the Panthers...so he should be pretty well keyed in.

    On the OTHER hand, he now works for ESPN who is notorious for running with things unconfirmed, or totally making them up.

    I like both Williams and Stewart. Williams only if he reworks his deal, Stewart only for no higher-than a 3rd, and assuming it's a rental. I'm ok giving up a 3rd for one year of Stewart on this team and to give Ridley/Vereen another year of seasoning.
     
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    In Response to Re: Panthers sign Mike Tolbert 4 years... : what about the pass rush and secondary? I'd rather have an elite rusher and cover corner than stewart and a upgrade to Connolly
    Posted by rameakap


    A cover corner sure, but when is the last time a BB coached defense had an "elite" pass rusher? LT?!?!

    I say another dominant space eating DT, then the rest of the guys can get to the QB on their JAG salaries.
     
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    Pats fan down here in Carolina.  Part of Stewarts problem in 2010 was injury.  He played hurt and didn't have the same burst.  Also, the Panther's offense was probably the most predictable in the league.  Everyone knew the Panthers were going to run.  The O-line was also dealing with some injuries (by the end of that year I think half the players on that team were injured).  Last season, both Williams and Stewart started out very slow.  Once again, the O-line experienced some injury and there was also a noticable drop off in the play of Ryan Kalil.  

    I am a little wary of Jonathan Stewart.  It seems like he has come into camp the past two years with nagging injuries.
     
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     True,

    I'm with ya dude. I posted on here a month ago (and a couple of times since) that I had heard the Patriots were interested in him on our local sports radio show here in Charlotte, WFNZ. The reason his numbers are down in 2010 and '11 as posted earlier were due to the train wreck that was 2010 and Cam Newton last year. He averaged over 5 YPC and 8.78 YPR. I like those numbers a lot. Tolbert signed because of his production and his relationship with Ron Rivera. Stewart is 5' 10' and 235 lbs. He turns 26 this week and would be one helluva get for NE in my humble opinion. Oh, he has one year remaining on his rookie deal and I wonder what kinda pick (round) we'd have to give up.
     
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    Also, the Panther's offense was probably the most predictable in the league.  
    Posted by ZachRudy


    Huh . . . reading this forum, I would have thought the Pats had the most predictable offense in hte league ... 
     
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    In Response to Re: Panthers sign Mike Tolbert 4 years... : You keep bringing up Williams but Williams was still a top 10 CB last year! It we got Webb and he had a year like Williams had this past year I'd be flipping for joy. It just shows how foolish you are if you think saying he's like Williams is a bad thing. BTW who in the heck said Robinson was a top tier CB? I don't remember a single person saying that Robinson was a top CB. I'm pretty sure you are making that on up as the year before Williams I believe it was Revis and the year before that it was Aso, all of which aren't to shabby either
    Posted by PatsEng


    No he wasn't. He and Woodson had off years.  Dunta Robinson hit free agency and cashed in that year.  Plenty of NFL fans thought that and so did the Falcons. Look at the contract.

    Fact is, teams who overpay at CB don't win SBs. No thanks.  End of discussion. You want it, I don't.

    If BB had paid Ty Law in 2005 and not just promoted Samuel and Gay, our team is WORSE off for it in the following years.


     
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     True, I'm with ya dude. I posted on here a month ago (and a couple of times since) that I had heard the Patriots were interested in him on our local sports radio show here in Charlotte, WFNZ. The reason his numbers are down in 2010 and '11 as posted earlier were due to the train wreck that was 2010 and Cam Newton last year. He averaged over 5 YPC and 8.78 YPR. I like those numbers a lot. Tolbert signed because of his production and his relationship with Ron Rivera. Stewart is 5' 10' and 235 lbs. He turns 26 this week and would be one helluva get for NE in my humble opinion. Oh, he has one year remaining on his rookie deal and I wonder what kinda pick (round) we'd have to give up.
    Posted by Joel63


    Yeah I heard from a few people in that area that we were interested in Stewart before they signed Tolbert. I think we could get him for our late 2nd rounder, but it might be wishful thinking.

    If we could send a player(Ocho) and a 3rd for a 1 year rental that might be ok too. We don't need all of our draft picks and we need to win now!
     
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