Pat Draft Blunder Revisited

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    Pat Draft Blunder Revisited

    I hope that I'm wrong, but from what I see so far, Tavon Wilson was a waste of the 48th pick in the draft just as everyone on the planet except BB and crew feared.   

    Maybe he will take a year or two to develop... I believe however, that in a couple of years, Tavon will no longer be with the team or possibly just a high-pick special teams player.  

    The truth is that the talent still available at #48 could be helping us at multiple positions right now more than Wilson, who again seems to be over-rated and would have been available much later in the draft.    

    Solder also is not performing as a #17 at this point and I am concerned about his sustainable health.  But at least we got Chandler and Hightower right. 

     
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    In response to Eldunker's comment:

    I hope that I'm wrong, but from what I see so far, Tavon Wilson was a waste of the 48th pick in the draft just as everyone on the planet except BB and crew feared.   

    Maybe he will take a year or two to develop... I believe however, that in a couple of years, Tavon will no longer be with the team or possibly just a high-pick special teams player.  

    The truth is that the talent still available at #48 could be helping us at multiple positions right now more than Wilson, who again seems to be over-rated and would have been available much later in the draft.    

    Solder also is not performing as a #17 at this point and I am concerned about his sustainable health.  But at least we got Chandler and Hightower right. 



    Still early to judge Wilson.  Solder coming along fine, he should be a good player for years to come.

     
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    I'd say wrong, Solder is a monster, Wilson has been a tackling machine in limited minutes and will be a fine player once the game slows down and he learns his job completely.

     
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    I was totally blown away that they picked this kid and after watching his "highlights", I was even more confused. Having said that, it's a bit early to call him a bust, but he sure hasn't helped our defense (and that's what 2nd round picks are suppossed to do...help).

     

     
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    Other than biting on double moves, I don't think he's been bad for a rookie. 

     
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    Who were the big names?  Kendall Reyes, Devon Still, Peter Konz.

     
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    Agree Solder is border line pro bowl. IMO jury still out with Wilson, he could go either way. See some good things, but repeats mistakes again and again. 

     
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    Yeah, hindsight. Except that the entire world questioned the pick at the time.

     
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    C'mon Babe, Mel Kiper and TexPat are not the entire world. :-)

     
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    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

    C'mon Babe, Mel Kiper and TexPat are not the entire world. :-)




    Yes they are.

     
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    I just looked quickly at everyone picked in the 2nd round after Wilson.  Wth is the OP talking about.  I don't even believe in these woulda coulda shouldas, but no one on the list I looked at seems to be some huge impact player thus far.

     
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    Usually defensive backfield players need one or two years before they start.  McCourty was an exception. 

     
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    In response to pcmIV's comment:

    I just looked quickly at everyone picked in the 2nd round after Wilson.  Wth is the OP talking about.  I don't even believe in these woulda coulda shouldas, but no one on the list I looked at seems to be some huge impact player thus far.




    Exactly!!! Basing an assessment on contribution to date, this post is kinda ridiculous. Wilson was picked at 48. He's now a starter with 30 tackles, 21 solos and 3 ints. Let's see what the following picks did so far.

    49  K Reyes (DT) is not a starter - 7 tackles

    50  I Pead (RB) has had 4 run attempts - I am happy with NWE's RBs

    51  J Worthy (DT) not a starter - 9 tackles

    52  Z Brown (LB)  I'm sorry, but Hightower and Jones were much better defensive picks

    53  D Still (DT) according to ESPN is third in the depth chart, has 14 tackles

    54  R Broyles (WR) has had 13 receptions

    55  P Konz (C) starting as a G. I have no idea what stats to assess a G, but I assume he's doing well

    56  M Adams (OT) Another OL who seems to be doing fine

    57  B Osweiler

    58  L David (LB) Defintely productive, but again no regrets with Hightower and Jones

    59  V Curry (DE) 3rd on RDE depth

    The three closest CBs are

    62  C Hayward - 17 tackles 4 INTs

    65  T Johnson - 6 tackles 1 INT

    66  J Robinson - 37 tackles, 1 INT. It's documented on MB's draft thread that I wanted this guy. To date however, I would not say Josh was a better pick. Wilson

    Closest S

    73  B Taylor - SD has a really bad yet ESPN does not stats on him. Did he even play yet?

    Who's been a better pick? Or in NWE's case, who should they have picked instead? Even on hindsight, it's ridiculous at this point to say this kid was a wasted pick.

     
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    Since we're talking hindsight here, Lavonte David is a stud.  Fast, sure tackler, great in coverage, smart. Derrick Brooks II.

     
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    I think Solder was a good pick who still might be a great pick. Wilson is definitely too early to judge.

    Really, if there was one pick I could have back it would be taking Brandon Tate one pick before Mike Wallace.

     
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    In response to FrnkBnhm's comment:

    I think Solder was a good pick who still might be a great pick. Wilson is definitely too early to judge.

    Really, if there was one pick I could have back it would be taking Brandon Tate one pick before Mike Wallace.



    bbs brilliance in db and wr drafting is blinding and it displays that this org is a one man org, inlcuding the draft, and it aint the best way to run an org.

     
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    I think Solder was a good pick who still might be a great pick. Wilson is definitely too early to judge.

    Really, if there was one pick I could have back it would be taking Brandon Tate one pick before Mike Wallace.

     

     

    I agree with all of that and also would have liked to see someone other than Dowling taken with the 33rd pick overall a couple of years ago.


     
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    Someone should post the entire second round and tell us who they would have picked instead of these "bad decisions" buy BB. One can't hit on every pick. 

     

     
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    In response to thehub's comment:

    Someone should post the entire second round and tell us who they would have picked instead of these "bad decisions" buy BB. One can't hit on every pick. 

     



    I totally agree... this idea of judging draft so soon is ridiculous. You really need two or even three seasons in the NFL to judge drafts. 

     
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    One of the things I would like to do is draw a line between the Pioli shared years and the BB by himself years.  The drafting has gotten much better without Pioli.  The Pats have several players from BBs drafts that are still on the roster! 

    One point on the Solder issue.  He got off to a slow start this year but appears to be back to that high draft pick expectations. 

    The Wilson pick is one for the ages.  Only the Pats would do something like this.  They do go according to their draft board and obviously had him ranked high.  These guys do this for a living and to blow a pick like this would make one's position with the team shakey.  I would hope anyway.

     
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