In response to UD6's comment:
^^^This is COMPLETELY FALSE. False. Kraft mentioned "spirtuality" when he raised the SB 36 trophy before Dungy even arrived in Indy.
In response to TexasPat's comment:
In response to nhsteven's comment:
RESPONSE: Completely disagree. Murder is not a butt-fumble. It's no laughing matter...no matter who the player is...or what team he plays for.
In response to RSPCB73's comment:
And yet, if this happened to the lousy bumbling freak show Jets, there would be a laugh a minute here.
Somewhere along the line, and I know I'll have disagreement (so be it), the Kraft Patriots began to be seen similarly to the Dungy Colts - not from a religious point of view, but from a kind of perception that player character was an integral part of their organizational philosophy.
This perception was both questioned and also driven home further when the pats would pick up a player of questionable character. When that happened, the first response was "wow, the pats took that guy" and was later followed with "if there is an organzation that can handle that character, its the patriots because of the way they do things and what is expected."
Everyone considered Dungy holier than thou, and on this board with little exception, posters had a field day when Dungy's son committed suicide. A chink in the armor, if you will. Posters personally blamed Dungy himself for his sons death as if he had actually done it.
So the pats have created a standard of character and discipline on their teams. The Krafts helped fuel it, and the media accepted and perpetuated it. No one here refused it. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, some here are indignant about the organization being called out.
So, you're wrong, as usual. Your premise is that Kraft, BB, the players solicit the cameras and media and preach religious or self righteous rhetoric, which clearly could not be further from the truth. So, you can stop lying.
Meanwhile, the Irsays and Dungy, with Polian, were on the forefront, reaching for the media or Goodell to use them to help their cause, because they felt entitled. SO true. Everyone saw it. You pansies would come in to Foxborough thinking you deserved to win those games, all self righteous because of stats in a dome. Everytime Dungy was interviewed he thought he was such a great coach with the smile and the aw shucks attitude. He was nice to the media, seems like a nice guy, so the media propped him up. Yet, he's a defensive coach who got by in Tampa Bay because he coached like 4 HOF players on his defense. The media should have been asking why he sucked so bad putting a good or great D on the field in Indy, the whole time. Instead, they protected him.
On the flip side, BB isn't a self promoter. Nor is Kraft. They prefer to let their laurels stand on their own feet. They do all they can to do it that way, as a matter of fact.
The fact is, the media and curious or jealous non-Pats fans were impressed or fascinated with how a coach could corral 53 egos in a room, year in and year out, with distractions, contracts, immaturity, selfishness in a selfish era in our country's history, and act like it was nothing.
That's the fact. Trust me. As someone who lived outside the area, followed this whole thing as close as you could, and was around non Pats fans the whole time, the media was angry they didn't get access or profit off the almost perfect perception the public had of the Pariots. By 2005, after the Bruschi stroke and the dynasty, many fans became enraged with hearing about how great they were.
Again, trust me, I lived in Chicago at the time and my friends started rolling their eyes every time the media would continue to prop up the Pats, but with no or limited access for interviews, etc.
But, none of this "Patriot Way" or anything they want to focus on to keep centered on as an organization, is promoted or advertised as something they think is superior to others. It's what they believe an organization has to have, to move and operate smoothly. But, from your arrogant point of view or anyone else who is jealous of it, the idea that Kraft and BB don't have the right to lead in that way to accomplish goals, is a joke. It's so arrogant from your point of view.
If every company in this country was run like Patriots, more jobs would be created and people would love where they worked.
It's become very popular to bash success and successful people in our society. It's a way for the media to make money.
They have you and many others here, hooked. That's on you.
this is just sad...and the fact that u really believe this silly cliched tripe is even sadder