Patriots Among Handful Of Teams Looking Strong So Far

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    Obviously, the big question is: How will the defense respond through the thick of it?  Interestingly, the Mankins situation seems to have lingered to the back of it all.
     
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    In Response to Re: Patriots Among Handful Of Teams Looking Strong So Far : You tell us. You're the Master of the English Language and All Its Uses. You're the one constantly calling out people for typos. Or is it incorrect spelling? You are the biggest tool on this board and everyone knows it. Jock sniffing D bag.
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    Actually, I enjoy reading his posts.  Why the naff remark?

    FYI: Consider separating the critical thinking skills from format and structure.  One can mock up an offering that is lacking academically, even though it might contain brilliant insights.  Of course, I am not pointing any particular individuals out in regards to these categories...don't have to.

     
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    Actually you tool (your own words there), its Foxborough, or the locally shortened Foxboro, not foxbro.
    You really should not call someone out if you are to stupid to get it correct when you do.
     
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    In Response to Re: Patriots Among Handful Of Teams Looking Strong So Far : I see - So in your world a defense that gives up points on every posession of the second half plus the final possession of the 1st - 5 in a row - cannot be blamed.  Got it.  I just don't understand then why pats fans blame their defense for the meltdown vs. in the colts in the 06 AFCCG?  Seems incongruent.
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    Oh please! The Colts and Saints were in the SUPERBOWL. That is the 2 best teams in the league. It is a test of wills, a test of fortitude, not a test of the better defense/offense. Both teams were great. Both teams were going to score points. Both teams were going to play defense. Unfortunately for your team only 1 QB was going to play well. Brees was that QB. Manning was not. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300207011

    Did the COLTS defense prevent Peyton Manning from scoring a single point in the 4rth QTR of the Superbowl when your team was up by 1 going in? Or do you now blame the SAINTS defense for your choke?


    Thanks for coming out today Underdogged.
     
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    "Well there we have it.  The test of wills and fortitude. 

    LOL.  You want to put it all on Manning.  Forget Brees' 16 of 17 in the second half or his 19 of 20 when you consider the Saints' last possession of the first half. Excuse #1 Did Manning have anything to do with that?  2 can play that game.  Freeney's ineffectiveness was also Manning's fault.Excuse #2  No pass rush,Excuse #3 leaky secondary playExcuse #4 - Manning. 

    Manning put his team in position to score and a field goal was missed in the 4th Quarter.Excuse #5  I ask again - did a pats kicker ever miss a critical kick in the playoffs?  I believe the answer is no.  Manning's had it happen no less than twice.  Excuse #6

    Does Manning deserve his share of blame?  You bet.  He threw that ball, and we won't know (although it has been said) whether or not the receiver was in the right place.  Excuse #7

    But Manning doesn't play defense and can't be responsible for an inability to stop Drew Brees." And finally excuse #8

    Eight excuse's as to why Manning couldn't play well in another big game.

    Your defense played very well for 3 quarters while your offense didn't. If Manning could have converted more 3rd downs your defense wouldn't have been left out to dry...Both on the field and in the eyes of Bill Polian and fans like yourself, anybody but Manning baby! That should be the Colts slogan.
     
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    Clearly this guy is not a Colts fan.  He is a Manning worshipper who tries to taunt fans of a team with a better QB.
     
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    Here is the picture....

    the Saints were down by 4 going into halftime.....

    Onside kick recovered by Saints - fault Indy's special teams

    3rd qtr Saints go up by 3 w/ TD - fault Indy's D

    3rd qtr Saints get FG down by 1 - fault Indy's D and ST

    4th Qtr, Indy up by 1.....Indy with the ball on their own 46 to start the 4th decides to go no huddle instead of trying to eat the clock. - fault coach and manning.

    4th qtr - missed 51 yd FG - fault manning and kicker.

    4th qtr NO scores td and made 2 pt conversion - fault Defense.

    4th qtr manning and Co. down by 7, 2nd and 5 at NO 31 yard line throws int and NO converts for TD. - fault Manning.  ( that was the part I liked most when the screen panned to manning's pouting face...you can see that he was trying to come up with who to point the finger at).


    Sure there was plenty of faults to go around.....but if you want to praise him for being a great QB and leading his team to all these come from behind victories....then he is at fault for his offense faultering....
    Can't have you cake and eat it too.....Sorry.

     
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    How come it's only a team game when the Colts lose?





     
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    Hey Croc:

    I hope your QB becomes a whee bit more productive before that time.....:-)

    Otherwise this prediction is a crock of (*&^
     
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    Well there we have it.  The test of wills and fortitude. 

    LOL.  You want to put it all on Manning.  Forget Brees' 16 of 17 in the second half or his 19 of 20 when you consider the Saints' last possession of the first half. Excuse #1
    Response - so Brees wasn't 19 of 20 from his last possession in the 2nd Q to the end of the game? 


    Response: Why couldn't Manning play this well? So the Colts defensive inadequecies are the reason Drew Brees was clutch? By your reasoning the Saints D is the reason Manning did not play well?

    Did Manning have anything to do with that?  2 can play that game.  Freeney's ineffectiveness was also Manning's fault.Excuse #2
    Response - was Manning responsible for Freeney's ineffectiveness or do you just not like answering obvious questions?
     

    Response: Ok so was Freeney responsible for Manning not playing well? See what I did there?


    No pass rush,Excuse #3
    Response - Lets see Freeney's 2nd half ineffectiveness, Brees 19 of 20, no ints.  If the stats don't work feel free to watch the game. 


    Response: Again so are you blaming Freeney for the entire Superbowl in which your team was winning going into the 4rth qtr? Or are you blaming the entire defense? What if Manning could have converted 1st downs? Same outcome?

    leaky secondary playExcuse #4 - Manning. 
    Response - 2 passes defensed and no ints.  Leaky indeed. 

    Manning put his team in position to score and a field goal was missed in the 4th Quarter.Excuse #5 
    Next time Manning will kick.
     

    Response: This is my favorite, No No it was the kickers fault we didn't play better! LOL

    I ask again - did a pats kicker ever miss a critical kick in the playoffs?  I believe the answer is no.  Manning's had it happen no less than twice.  Excuse #6
    You won't answer because you know its true.


    So if you make that FG Manning doesn't throw the game ending pick and stink it up the entire 4rth qtr?

    Does Manning deserve his share of blame?  You bet.  He threw that ball, and we won't know (although it has been said) whether or not the receiver was in the right place.  Excuse #7
    Response - He gets his blame. 


    Response: (although it has been said what?) What does that mean? Is then when Polian blamed Wayne? Or when Polian blamed the offensive line? Anybody but Manning baby!

    But Manning doesn't play defense and can't be responsible for an inability to stop Drew Brees." And finally excuse #8
    I guess when Tom Brady asked if Plax was going to play defense, it wasn't really because he thought the pats could score more points.  Its because Vince Wilfork actually isn't Vince Wilfork.  Vince Wilfork is actually Tom Brady.  Gisele likes her men Beefy. 

    Eight excuse's as to why Manning couldn't play well in another big game.
    RESPONSE:  JEALOUSY AT ITS BEST. 

    Your defense played very well for 3 quarters while your offense didn't.
    RESPONSE:  I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EQUATE 3 POSSESSIONS BY THE SAINTS (LAST OF THE 2ND Q THRU THE 3RD Q) WITH 3 SCORES AND 13 POINTS AS THE COLTS DEFENSE PLAYING VERY WELL?  MAYBE FOR THE PATS DEFENSE THIS IS GOOD, BUT NOT FOR INDY. 

    If Manning could have converted more 3rd downs your defense wouldn't have been left out to dry...Both on the field and in the eyes of Bill Polian and fans like yourself, anybody but Manning baby! That should be the Colts slogan.
    RESPONSE:  NOPE MANNING GETS HIS BLAME.  HE THREW THAT BALL.  BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO BLAME.  THE D.  STOVER.  
     

    HONESTLY, YOUR INABILITY TO SEE ISSUES OTHER THAN MANNING AS REASONS FOR THAT LOSS EXPOSE YOU AS NOTHING MORE THAN A JEALOUS HATER.  I DON'T REALLY EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE.

    Always next year Underdogged! Maybe Polian will get you a better team for Peyton, perhaps more 1st round offensive players! Then he might win multiple Superbowls. But I doubt it.
     
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